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Does DevOps engineer in India make US $120,000? Does Java programmer in India command US $100,000? Does a system admin. in India command US $90,000?

by m23khan 10y ago

abhi3 10y ago
> Does Java programmer in India command US $100,000? 2500 USD to 15,000 USD http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Java_Software_Developer_%2F_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Java_Software_Develo...
- galuano1 10y ago
  That data is just wrong, and not what people get paid in major IT players, which are more likely to get these projects. The empirical formula for a new hire is $3000 * years of Experience. The median starting Salary is $4500 ~ $5000, and the salary usually caps out at $25000, and people above that payscale are usually considered architects.
anaerobia 10y ago
The DevOps in my company is in Pakistan. They make $10 an hour.
a_imho 10y ago
I'm on the other end of things, but never got a satisfying answer to why should I earn a cent less than someone US based (remote, traveling nomad whatever) just because I push commits from a different ISP.
- AstralStorm 10y ago
  Because the market wills so. (Actually, you're at the mercy of your employer.) Also high competition for perceivably cheap candidates.
  - a_imho 10y ago
    For one, I don't think just because you can exploit entire groups of people you are right to do that. The market could command lower wages for <underprivileged group> and it would not be right. It just happens overseas employees are protected by no one. What I find more interesting though, is that remote first companies behave the same. way E.g. look at GitLab salary calculator[0]. How does that make sense assuming a rational market? [0] https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/ https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/
- jazzyk 10y ago
  Perhaps because you don't need to: - pay $250K per child in college costs - pay 25K/year in health insurance - pay $3K/month for a small apartment
  - a_imho 10y ago
    This is the sentiment I usually see but how are one's expenses or expected living standard is relevant regarding compensation for work? Imo it is very hard to argue against equal work => equal pay. At least from a moral pov. Btw that is a lot of incorrect assumptions about expenses, including where someone's children might want to go to college, globally fixed costs like work equipment and cloud services, not to mention goods which are actually cheaper in the US.

Does DevOps engineer in India make US $120,000? Does Java programmer in India command US $100,000? Does a system admin. in India command US $90,000?

by m23khan 10y ago

Does DevOps engineer in India make US $120,000? Does Java programmer in India command US $100,000? Does a system admin. in India command US $90,000?

abhi3 10y ago

> Does Java programmer in India command US $100,000? 2500 USD to 15,000 USD http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Java_Software_Developer_%2F_Programmer/Salary http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Java_Software_Develo...

galuano1 10y ago
That data is just wrong, and not what people get paid in major IT players, which are more likely to get these projects. The empirical formula for a new hire is $3000 * years of Experience. The median starting Salary is $4500 ~ $5000, and the salary usually caps out at $25000, and people above that payscale are usually considered architects.

anaerobia 10y ago

The DevOps in my company is in Pakistan. They make $10 an hour.

a_imho 10y ago

I'm on the other end of things, but never got a satisfying answer to why should I earn a cent less than someone US based (remote, traveling nomad whatever) just because I push commits from a different ISP.

AstralStorm 10y ago
Because the market wills so. (Actually, you're at the mercy of your employer.) Also high competition for perceivably cheap candidates.
- a_imho 10y ago
  For one, I don't think just because you can exploit entire groups of people you are right to do that. The market could command lower wages for <underprivileged group> and it would not be right. It just happens overseas employees are protected by no one. What I find more interesting though, is that remote first companies behave the same. way E.g. look at GitLab salary calculator[0]. How does that make sense assuming a rational market? [0] https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/ https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/
jazzyk 10y ago
Perhaps because you don't need to: - pay $250K per child in college costs - pay 25K/year in health insurance - pay $3K/month for a small apartment
- a_imho 10y ago
  This is the sentiment I usually see but how are one's expenses or expected living standard is relevant regarding compensation for work? Imo it is very hard to argue against equal work => equal pay. At least from a moral pov. Btw that is a lot of incorrect assumptions about expenses, including where someone's children might want to go to college, globally fixed costs like work equipment and cloud services, not to mention goods which are actually cheaper in the US.