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If I was in charge of communication at an enterprise I would stay the hell away from this. Google has probably abandoned this project already. I'm being semi se

If I was in charge of communication at an enterprise I would stay the hell away from this. Google has probably abandoned this project already. I'm being semi serious - based on their history it might never get an update, or be dropped in a matter of months. I'm not sure how Google expects anyone to invest in any of their minor platforms when they're so unfocussed and so notorious for abandoning and shutting down their services. Haven't they launched something like an average one new chat app every two months over the last six? Enterprise apps are the very type that need long term confidence the most. Why are we to expect this would be any different to the multitudes of platforms they've abandoned and fragmented already?

mikecb 10y ago
This is just the next iteration of hangouts, which was already pivoting to enterprise, re-branded. Kinda necessary, since hangouts doesn't really suggest business use.
gsnedders 10y ago
Google use Hangouts for all their video conferencing, both purely internal AFAICT and with externals. I expect that's a large part of why they're continuing to support Hangouts for enterprise: they're heavily bought into it themselves.
- notheguyouthink 10y ago
  I'm honestly surprised by it. I had gotten the uninformed impression that it was being abandoned. I think the introduction of Duo or whatever it's called (the new chat platforms) threw me off.
  - kyrra 10y ago
    I'm a Google employee, opinions are my own. Duo is person-to-person for mobile without the requirement of having a Google account. There are no multi-user video chats. There is no desktop client. It's more akin to Facetime from my point of view. Hangouts video continues to serve a different market (people that need 3+ people in a chat, plus desktop support). Meet simplifies this for businesses that heavily use it, as you can just jump into Meet and join your next meeting (instead of finding it on your calendar and then joining it). From my own using of it, I've like it so far. Keep in mind that March 8 is the start of Google Cloud Next[0]. This event covers cloud services, gsuite, and other enterprise focused features from Google. I'd keep an eye on that event. [0] https://cloudnext.withgoogle.com/ https://cloudnext.withgoogle.com/
  - puzzle 10y ago
    You're probably surprised only because you didn't know that at some point Google was one of the largest Tandberg customers on the planet, if not the largest. Then it all makes sense.
petters 10y ago
Enterprises pay money for support and these kind of guarantees.
- samfisher83 10y ago
  They shut down the enterprise search box. It doesn't matter if its paid or free google isn't going to guarantee much.
zellyn 10y ago
We have Google Hangouts equipment in all our meeting rooms at Square, and use them for many (most?) meetings. They generally work great.
- atonse 10y ago
  What do you mean by hangouts equipment? (genuine question, I didn't know they had hardware) Update: Never mind, I googled it :) very cool. So it's reliable? I'd love to suggest something like this for my organization. We waste the first 10 minutes of every. single. meeting. just getting situated. It's very frustrating.
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  - zellyn 10y ago
    Well, it's video conferencing, so of course sometimes it completely fails to work for no discernible reason. But generally, yes, it's pretty reliable. :-)
  - tedmiston 10y ago
    I've had good experiences with the $1k Hangouts boxes [1][2]. At first they felt unnecessary vs just dedicating one person's laptop to a hangout in each meeting, but the 5-10 minutes here and there that they save, the professionalism they bring to team meetings, and the improved audio quality from the dedicated mic makes them worthwhile. I think $1k is a bit steep for what they are hardware-wise, but they're still worth it. [1]: https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/2911/acer-chromebox-for-meetings-dt-z0jaa-001-black https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/2911/a... [2]: https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/1706/asus-chromebox2-g015u-iron-grey https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/1706/a...
  - adrianmacneil 10y ago
    If you decide to suggest this, be sure to buy Chromebox _for meetings_. The regular Chromebox cannot be upgraded or converted into a Chromebox for Meetings. This caught me out the first time. https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/category/chrome-devices-for-meetings https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/catego...
accountface 10y ago
Especially their messaging services, they officially promote at least 3 at this point? Just pick one and work on that you jerks.
Veratyr 10y ago
> they're so unfocussed and so notorious for abandoning and shutting down their services When was the last time they shut down anything major other than a consumer service? Cloud is still going. AppEngine is still going. Apps/GSuite is still going. Google admittedly has a pretty terrible record on consumer products but in enterprise it seems pretty solid. The only shutdown I recall seeing that would affect a business is the site search, which doesn't appear to have been used much.
- fuck_google 10y ago
  App Engine and G Suite development has been stagnated for years now. Google has also alienated business users with its bait-and-switch sales tactics. Support offered by Google is either non-existent or costs a lot compared to competitors. They don't seem to care about user feedback. They suck at product management. Does that sound business friendly to you?

mikecb 10y ago

This is just the next iteration of hangouts, which was already pivoting to enterprise, re-branded. Kinda necessary, since hangouts doesn't really suggest business use.

gsnedders 10y ago

Google use Hangouts for all their video conferencing, both purely internal AFAICT and with externals. I expect that's a large part of why they're continuing to support Hangouts for enterprise: they're heavily bought into it themselves.

notheguyouthink 10y ago
I'm honestly surprised by it. I had gotten the uninformed impression that it was being abandoned. I think the introduction of Duo or whatever it's called (the new chat platforms) threw me off.
- kyrra 10y ago
  I'm a Google employee, opinions are my own. Duo is person-to-person for mobile without the requirement of having a Google account. There are no multi-user video chats. There is no desktop client. It's more akin to Facetime from my point of view. Hangouts video continues to serve a different market (people that need 3+ people in a chat, plus desktop support). Meet simplifies this for businesses that heavily use it, as you can just jump into Meet and join your next meeting (instead of finding it on your calendar and then joining it). From my own using of it, I've like it so far. Keep in mind that March 8 is the start of Google Cloud Next[0]. This event covers cloud services, gsuite, and other enterprise focused features from Google. I'd keep an eye on that event. [0] https://cloudnext.withgoogle.com/ https://cloudnext.withgoogle.com/
- puzzle 10y ago
  You're probably surprised only because you didn't know that at some point Google was one of the largest Tandberg customers on the planet, if not the largest. Then it all makes sense.

petters 10y ago

Enterprises pay money for support and these kind of guarantees.

samfisher83 10y ago
They shut down the enterprise search box. It doesn't matter if its paid or free google isn't going to guarantee much.

zellyn 10y ago

We have Google Hangouts equipment in all our meeting rooms at Square, and use them for many (most?) meetings. They generally work great.

atonse 10y ago
What do you mean by hangouts equipment? (genuine question, I didn't know they had hardware) Update: Never mind, I googled it :) very cool. So it's reliable? I'd love to suggest something like this for my organization. We waste the first 10 minutes of every. single. meeting. just getting situated. It's very frustrating.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- zellyn 10y ago
  Well, it's video conferencing, so of course sometimes it completely fails to work for no discernible reason. But generally, yes, it's pretty reliable. :-)
- tedmiston 10y ago
  I've had good experiences with the $1k Hangouts boxes [1][2]. At first they felt unnecessary vs just dedicating one person's laptop to a hangout in each meeting, but the 5-10 minutes here and there that they save, the professionalism they bring to team meetings, and the improved audio quality from the dedicated mic makes them worthwhile. I think $1k is a bit steep for what they are hardware-wise, but they're still worth it. [1]: https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/2911/acer-chromebox-for-meetings-dt-z0jaa-001-black https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/2911/a... [2]: https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/1706/asus-chromebox2-g015u-iron-grey https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/1706/a...
- adrianmacneil 10y ago
  If you decide to suggest this, be sure to buy Chromebox _for meetings_. The regular Chromebox cannot be upgraded or converted into a Chromebox for Meetings. This caught me out the first time. https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/category/chrome-devices-for-meetings https://chromebusinessdevices.withgoogle.com/products/catego...

accountface 10y ago

Especially their messaging services, they officially promote at least 3 at this point? Just pick one and work on that you jerks.

Veratyr 10y ago

> they're so unfocussed and so notorious for abandoning and shutting down their services When was the last time they shut down anything major other than a consumer service? Cloud is still going. AppEngine is still going. Apps/GSuite is still going. Google admittedly has a pretty terrible record on consumer products but in enterprise it seems pretty solid. The only shutdown I recall seeing that would affect a business is the site search, which doesn't appear to have been used much.

fuck_google 10y ago
App Engine and G Suite development has been stagnated for years now. Google has also alienated business users with its bait-and-switch sales tactics. Support offered by Google is either non-existent or costs a lot compared to competitors. They don't seem to care about user feedback. They suck at product management. Does that sound business friendly to you?