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They are making it 'more' illegal in the UK. You are drug tested if you are pulled over by their pigs and their companies do urine tests on every single employe

They are making it 'more' illegal in the UK. You are drug tested if you are pulled over by their pigs and their companies do urine tests on every single employee regardless of role and fired. Unless you are an exec I bet and for something you could have done legally over a month ago stateside. My niece has Crohn's. From a lovely vibrant kid she has managed this pain with a smile and nearly died once or twice. She is ill again now. How many of those cunts snort coke before their big hypocritical speeches?

DanBC 10y ago
>> their companies do urine tests on every single employee regardless of role and fired. https://www.gov.uk/monitoring-work-workers-rights/drug-testing https://www.gov.uk/monitoring-work-workers-rights/drug-testi... > 2. Drug testing > Employers have to have consent if they want to test for drugs. Usually this is when they have a full contractual health and safety policy, which should be in the contract or staff handbook. > Employers should: > limit testing to employees that need to be tested > ensure the tests are random > *not single out particular employees for testing unless this is justified by the nature of their jobs > Workers can’t be made to take a drugs test but if they refuse when the employer has good grounds for testing, they may face disciplinary action. https://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-issues/health-and-safety/drugs-and-alcohol/guides-and-reports-reps/drug-testing-workplace https://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-issues/health-and-safety/dr... > Despite claims from drugs-testing companies, there is no real evidence that drug-testing is becoming common-place in British workplaces. It is mainly used, often with union agreement, in safety critical areas such as transport and energy generation or after an incident. There is also increased usage in the construction industry. However generally where wide-scale drug testing has been considered it has been rejected either because of cost, union objections, or doubts over the effectiveness.
- nthcolumn 10y ago
  Everyone (allegedly) got tested. My buddy got fired. He worked on an IT helpdesk. It is in the small print of his contract. Yes it is construction. UK gov is a ministry of information thing. It says a lot of things that companies here just ignore because they can. Wrongful dismissal laws here were neutered by the tories. More friends tell me it is happening in their companies too. I would show the contract /say more but I do not want to identify myself. But thanks for the downvotes I hope the view is nice from that gilded tower.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    The TUC is not a government mouthpiece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trades_Union_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trades_Union_Congress
    - nthcolumn 10y ago
      LOL Try phoning them. Haven't you noticed that they say if it is in the contract you either put up or shut up. Do you think we want to be tested like some animal because I sit at their desk? They tested EVERYBODY. Not random, not as a result of some clue. It was a blanket company wide purge of anyone they didn't like or desperately need who had smoked pot in the last hundred days. They are legally allowed to do so and even if they weren't legally allowed to do so they would do it anyway because what are you going to do? Fight a huge corporation's legal? Even if you win your award is capped at whatever crappy salary they deigned you were worth and you still have no job because they will just blacklist you. Methinks YOU have some vested interest you are not declaring because most people think this is disgusting fascist behaviour. My buddy worked on fucking helpdesk. They just don't like it and here we have the state saying you can regulate your pain with the drugs of their choice whilst making money off the back of stuff which kills millions. Well screw them.
- prodmerc 10y ago
  Yeah, from my experience the tests were as "random" as picking the black guy out of 20 white people. BUT they didn't target the people who did use weed or drank a lot, they tested the ones who were clean. So the company looks clean. What do gamers say, GG EZ lol
jk563 10y ago
Not sure what you've seen to evidence this. I've worked for 4 companies (definitely not exec level); I've been pulled over a couple of times and not once been asked to do a drug/urine test.
- nthcolumn 10y ago
  Do I have to name the company I work for? We fired 5 people this year after company wide piss tests at seven sites. THis: http://think.direct.gov.uk/drug-driving.html http://think.direct.gov.uk/drug-driving.html
  - Accacin 10y ago
    What's the problem? I'm completely for making all drug use legal but I don't want people driving when they've been taking drugs.
    - poizan42 10y ago
      The testing doesn't show whether the person is currently under the influence - it tests for metabolites that can still be found a long time after use.
      - rwmj 10y ago
        This isn't true. The tests and legal limits are all about delta9-THC, which disappears in a few hours. CBD and metabolites are not tested at all nor mentioned in the regulations. Source: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2868/pdfs/uksi_20142868_en.pdf http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2868/pdfs/uksi_20142...
jk563 10y ago
Not sure what you've seen to evidence this. I've worked for 4 companies (definitely not exec level); I've been pulled over a couple of times and not once been asked to do a drug/urine test.

DanBC 10y ago

>> their companies do urine tests on every single employee regardless of role and fired. https://www.gov.uk/monitoring-work-workers-rights/drug-testing https://www.gov.uk/monitoring-work-workers-rights/drug-testi... > 2. Drug testing > Employers have to have consent if they want to test for drugs. Usually this is when they have a full contractual health and safety policy, which should be in the contract or staff handbook. > Employers should: > limit testing to employees that need to be tested > ensure the tests are random > *not single out particular employees for testing unless this is justified by the nature of their jobs > Workers can’t be made to take a drugs test but if they refuse when the employer has good grounds for testing, they may face disciplinary action. https://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-issues/health-and-safety/drugs-and-alcohol/guides-and-reports-reps/drug-testing-workplace https://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-issues/health-and-safety/dr... > Despite claims from drugs-testing companies, there is no real evidence that drug-testing is becoming common-place in British workplaces. It is mainly used, often with union agreement, in safety critical areas such as transport and energy generation or after an incident. There is also increased usage in the construction industry. However generally where wide-scale drug testing has been considered it has been rejected either because of cost, union objections, or doubts over the effectiveness.

nthcolumn 10y ago
Everyone (allegedly) got tested. My buddy got fired. He worked on an IT helpdesk. It is in the small print of his contract. Yes it is construction. UK gov is a ministry of information thing. It says a lot of things that companies here just ignore because they can. Wrongful dismissal laws here were neutered by the tories. More friends tell me it is happening in their companies too. I would show the contract /say more but I do not want to identify myself. But thanks for the downvotes I hope the view is nice from that gilded tower.
- DanBC 10y ago
  The TUC is not a government mouthpiece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trades_Union_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trades_Union_Congress
  - nthcolumn 10y ago
    LOL Try phoning them. Haven't you noticed that they say if it is in the contract you either put up or shut up. Do you think we want to be tested like some animal because I sit at their desk? They tested EVERYBODY. Not random, not as a result of some clue. It was a blanket company wide purge of anyone they didn't like or desperately need who had smoked pot in the last hundred days. They are legally allowed to do so and even if they weren't legally allowed to do so they would do it anyway because what are you going to do? Fight a huge corporation's legal? Even if you win your award is capped at whatever crappy salary they deigned you were worth and you still have no job because they will just blacklist you. Methinks YOU have some vested interest you are not declaring because most people think this is disgusting fascist behaviour. My buddy worked on fucking helpdesk. They just don't like it and here we have the state saying you can regulate your pain with the drugs of their choice whilst making money off the back of stuff which kills millions. Well screw them.
prodmerc 10y ago
Yeah, from my experience the tests were as "random" as picking the black guy out of 20 white people. BUT they didn't target the people who did use weed or drank a lot, they tested the ones who were clean. So the company looks clean. What do gamers say, GG EZ lol

jk563 10y ago

Not sure what you've seen to evidence this. I've worked for 4 companies (definitely not exec level); I've been pulled over a couple of times and not once been asked to do a drug/urine test.

nthcolumn 10y ago
Do I have to name the company I work for? We fired 5 people this year after company wide piss tests at seven sites. THis: http://think.direct.gov.uk/drug-driving.html http://think.direct.gov.uk/drug-driving.html
- Accacin 10y ago
  What's the problem? I'm completely for making all drug use legal but I don't want people driving when they've been taking drugs.
  - poizan42 10y ago
    The testing doesn't show whether the person is currently under the influence - it tests for metabolites that can still be found a long time after use.
    - rwmj 10y ago
      This isn't true. The tests and legal limits are all about delta9-THC, which disappears in a few hours. CBD and metabolites are not tested at all nor mentioned in the regulations. Source: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2868/pdfs/uksi_20142868_en.pdf http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/2868/pdfs/uksi_20142...

jk563 10y ago

Not sure what you've seen to evidence this. I've worked for 4 companies (definitely not exec level); I've been pulled over a couple of times and not once been asked to do a drug/urine test.