You've misunderstood my statement. I understand living behind the iron curtain was horrible for many. Like you I know people that fled this situation. And I am

You've misunderstood my statement. I understand living behind the iron curtain was horrible for many. Like you I know people that fled this situation. And I am absolutely not advocating/romanticizing communism/socialism. My point is ANYTHING communism/socialism became a negative point. Kinda how you jumped on my comment without as though I was being a communist/socialist avocate when I was saying elements of have potential. Healthcare in USA is a good real world example. Most developed nations do universal healthcare and its the preferred way for the majority in these countries with clearly better outcomes for the mass. Many Americans still seem emotionally charged against 'socialising healthcare', argueing this is not a viable alternative despite significant empirical examples proving this works well. And also allows for integration with private alternatives for those that want service options. I just feel the world is getting more ration in its discussion on this point. Plenty if irrationality remaining elsewhere :)