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HN links to satirical website poking fun at HN. Some HN users find the summaries to be quite humorous. One HN user, in true HN virtue signaling fashion, takes t

by Inconel 10y ago

HN links to satirical website poking fun at HN. Some HN users find the summaries to be quite humorous. One HN user, in true HN virtue signaling fashion, takes the opportunity to be outraged that the satire doesn't adequately address broader social issues and is therefore a waste of time.

KirinDave 10y ago
"Virtue signaling." Ah excellent. We didn't have enough racist code talk from reddit and twitter in this discussion. "Satire" is also topical! On YouTube, "satire" is currently code for "rich gamer who was notoriously bad managing his income, now in a tantrum spiral over massive fraudulent viewer purges, pays non-english speakers to hold up English Nazi propaganda." Tell me, how much reddit gold have you gotten in your life? Because you talk like someone with a lot of Reddit gold.
- coderdude 10y ago
  It's mostly comments like this that made me stop wanting to contribute in a meaningful way a few years back. This thread shows there's a capacity for the community to laugh at itself. We need that. Whatever your beef is, please find a different outlet for it.
  - KirinDave 10y ago
    Is writing snarky, content-free annotation websites making fun of people who need help here "laughing at ourselves?" This n-gate author is just another person in tech who things "this is wrong" is more valuable than "this is more correct." In the same vein as "shit HN says", it's just taking cheap shots. It's the tech equivalent of watching Dr. Phil and going, "Gosh at least that's not my life." It's the kind of mentality that claps when Linus Torvalds cusses someone out for reminding him he made his own bed with SHA1. I did stop contributing here for years was the utter frustration at how casual and horrifying things uttered were protected as "discourse" but any counter to them was "being uncivil." But ultimately I stay because I genuinely like to help people with tech and like to tell people who bring Reddit in here to go back to that crappy smugfest (or perhaps head to less orange pastures).
    - paublyrne 10y ago
      Is writing snarky, content-free annotation websites making fun of people who need help here "laughing at ourselves?" The tone of the annotations, while styled as snark, have a playfulness that neutralises any potential malice. If I noticed that I was seeing bitterness in everything, I might stop criticising for a while and start asking questions of myself.
      - KirinDave 10y ago
        I don't mind the occasional potshot, but if it's not coupled with constructive criticism, I think over time it festers.
  - vacri 10y ago
    It's weird that you make this comment, yet spend so much time flinging shit yourself.
- Inconel 10y ago
  Serious question, while I know the term "virtue signaling" is somewhat contentious, I've never heard any critiques of it in terms of racist code talk so I'm unsure what you're getting at. I'm not up to date on the whole Pewdiepie thing, aside from the general impression I get of him being an ass and now rightfully suffering the consequences of his actions, and if paying non-English speakers to hold up Nazi propaganda is indeed viewed as satire by the broader Youtube community, than I would agree that is unfortunate, and pretty unfunny to boot. Regarding reddit gold, I've had a reddit account for a few years now but the only subs I subscribe to are r/welding, r/cableporn, and r/machinists. I have earned exactly zero reddit gold so far, perhaps I'm not as witty as I think? My apologies to you if my previous comment was unfunny or out of bounds. It was an attempt on my part to lightheartedly poke fun of HN users who tend to take things overly seriously. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have commented at all. Now that the cats out of the bag though, as a biracial non-white immigrant to the US who grew up well below the poverty line, I find it somewhat funny to be accused of being a closet racist by a poster, whom from what I can gather, seems to be a rather rich privileged white dude living in SV. It's almost like the satire writes itself. I'd probably level the term "virtue signaling" against what's going on here, but, I don't again want to be accused of being a racist by some random white dude.
  - KirinDave 10y ago
    > Now that the cats out of the bag though, as a biracial non-white immigrant to the US who grew up well below the poverty line, I find it somewhat funny to be accused of being a closet racist by a poster, whom from what I can gather, seems to be a rather rich privileged white dude living in SV. If you know enough to know where I am then you know enough to know that misgendering me is a way to pick a much bigger fight. Coincidentally in your protestations of innocence to the massive cultural warfare taking place around you (despite coincidentally adopting its tone & rhetoric) you just so happen to leave that in. How unfortunate that I only put it in 2/3 of my online bios. I have corrected this oversight. So maybe it's all a nice big misunderstanding or maybe one of us is a troll. It'll be better either way if we stop talking.
    - Inconel 10y ago

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KirinDave 10y ago

"Virtue signaling." Ah excellent. We didn't have enough racist code talk from reddit and twitter in this discussion. "Satire" is also topical! On YouTube, "satire" is currently code for "rich gamer who was notoriously bad managing his income, now in a tantrum spiral over massive fraudulent viewer purges, pays non-english speakers to hold up English Nazi propaganda." Tell me, how much reddit gold have you gotten in your life? Because you talk like someone with a lot of Reddit gold.

coderdude 10y ago
It's mostly comments like this that made me stop wanting to contribute in a meaningful way a few years back. This thread shows there's a capacity for the community to laugh at itself. We need that. Whatever your beef is, please find a different outlet for it.
- KirinDave 10y ago
  Is writing snarky, content-free annotation websites making fun of people who need help here "laughing at ourselves?" This n-gate author is just another person in tech who things "this is wrong" is more valuable than "this is more correct." In the same vein as "shit HN says", it's just taking cheap shots. It's the tech equivalent of watching Dr. Phil and going, "Gosh at least that's not my life." It's the kind of mentality that claps when Linus Torvalds cusses someone out for reminding him he made his own bed with SHA1. I did stop contributing here for years was the utter frustration at how casual and horrifying things uttered were protected as "discourse" but any counter to them was "being uncivil." But ultimately I stay because I genuinely like to help people with tech and like to tell people who bring Reddit in here to go back to that crappy smugfest (or perhaps head to less orange pastures).
  - paublyrne 10y ago
    Is writing snarky, content-free annotation websites making fun of people who need help here "laughing at ourselves?" The tone of the annotations, while styled as snark, have a playfulness that neutralises any potential malice. If I noticed that I was seeing bitterness in everything, I might stop criticising for a while and start asking questions of myself.
    - KirinDave 10y ago
      I don't mind the occasional potshot, but if it's not coupled with constructive criticism, I think over time it festers.
- vacri 10y ago
  It's weird that you make this comment, yet spend so much time flinging shit yourself.
Inconel 10y ago
Serious question, while I know the term "virtue signaling" is somewhat contentious, I've never heard any critiques of it in terms of racist code talk so I'm unsure what you're getting at. I'm not up to date on the whole Pewdiepie thing, aside from the general impression I get of him being an ass and now rightfully suffering the consequences of his actions, and if paying non-English speakers to hold up Nazi propaganda is indeed viewed as satire by the broader Youtube community, than I would agree that is unfortunate, and pretty unfunny to boot. Regarding reddit gold, I've had a reddit account for a few years now but the only subs I subscribe to are r/welding, r/cableporn, and r/machinists. I have earned exactly zero reddit gold so far, perhaps I'm not as witty as I think? My apologies to you if my previous comment was unfunny or out of bounds. It was an attempt on my part to lightheartedly poke fun of HN users who tend to take things overly seriously. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have commented at all. Now that the cats out of the bag though, as a biracial non-white immigrant to the US who grew up well below the poverty line, I find it somewhat funny to be accused of being a closet racist by a poster, whom from what I can gather, seems to be a rather rich privileged white dude living in SV. It's almost like the satire writes itself. I'd probably level the term "virtue signaling" against what's going on here, but, I don't again want to be accused of being a racist by some random white dude.
- KirinDave 10y ago
  > Now that the cats out of the bag though, as a biracial non-white immigrant to the US who grew up well below the poverty line, I find it somewhat funny to be accused of being a closet racist by a poster, whom from what I can gather, seems to be a rather rich privileged white dude living in SV. If you know enough to know where I am then you know enough to know that misgendering me is a way to pick a much bigger fight. Coincidentally in your protestations of innocence to the massive cultural warfare taking place around you (despite coincidentally adopting its tone & rhetoric) you just so happen to leave that in. How unfortunate that I only put it in 2/3 of my online bios. I have corrected this oversight. So maybe it's all a nice big misunderstanding or maybe one of us is a troll. It'll be better either way if we stop talking.
  - Inconel 10y ago