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The stratechery folks have said something akin to that Twitter is unsalvageable that this point from a growth perspective because they've already lost most of t

by platz 10y ago

The stratechery folks have said something akin to that Twitter is unsalvageable that this point from a growth perspective because they've already lost most of their potential customers. People who tried their product and walked away. If these were fresh potential customers it would be one thing, but convincing someone to come back who already tried your product is much harder

kbenson 10y ago
It doesn't help that those of us that walked away still continuously hear stories about how Twitter can be a cesspool.
- amagumori 10y ago
  In what ways do people see twitter as a cesspool? Im just genuinely curious because I get a lot of value out of twitter. It's a great way for me to be exposed to new work from artists, finding circles of people with overlapping niche interests, reading political dialogue and analysis, funny stuff...etc
  - kbenson 10y ago
    To be fair, people using twitter don't generally call it a cesspool, and reading between the lines you know they must get value out of it if they continue to use it, but there's the constant "you have to have thick skin" statements from people about how it can occasionally be toxic. As someone not in the social network, what it looks like is that there may be some value to me if I get involved, but I'll likely have to deal with bullshit to do so, and the perception is that the bullshit is much more assured than the value. Whether this is valid, or more specifically whether the relative assessments of each feature are accurate, is unknown, but that's how it feels.
    - LoSboccacc 10y ago
      Twitter, as Linkedin, suffers from a poor content to marketing ratio. I do use it to follow some devs, but every time I step out the established circle into an hashtag or suggestion is nothing but marketing bots oneupping each other. On the other social is easier to have real social interaction, while talking on twitter is more like people screaming in a crowd plus there are these big tv set all over the place loudness to the max splourting ads. It was a nice way to grow an asymmetric network built on shared interest as opposed to shared connections when there where genuine people on it but I hardly even login anymore.
  - fragmede 10y ago
    Some people find harassment in the form of deeply personal insults, doxxing, and death threats to be unpleasant enough that it's just not worth spending any time on Twitter. This article is from August, but nothing has especially changed since then. https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/a-honeypot-for-assholes-inside-twitters-10-year-failure-to-s?utm_term=.kxPY34rJL#.syg7JqmBM https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/a-honeypot-for-asshol...
- nyolfen 10y ago
  it's a mostly unmoderated public forum. the price of addressing the world is having to listen back.

by platz 10y ago

kbenson 10y ago

It doesn't help that those of us that walked away still continuously hear stories about how Twitter can be a cesspool.

amagumori 10y ago
In what ways do people see twitter as a cesspool? Im just genuinely curious because I get a lot of value out of twitter. It's a great way for me to be exposed to new work from artists, finding circles of people with overlapping niche interests, reading political dialogue and analysis, funny stuff...etc
- kbenson 10y ago
  To be fair, people using twitter don't generally call it a cesspool, and reading between the lines you know they must get value out of it if they continue to use it, but there's the constant "you have to have thick skin" statements from people about how it can occasionally be toxic. As someone not in the social network, what it looks like is that there may be some value to me if I get involved, but I'll likely have to deal with bullshit to do so, and the perception is that the bullshit is much more assured than the value. Whether this is valid, or more specifically whether the relative assessments of each feature are accurate, is unknown, but that's how it feels.
  - LoSboccacc 10y ago
    Twitter, as Linkedin, suffers from a poor content to marketing ratio. I do use it to follow some devs, but every time I step out the established circle into an hashtag or suggestion is nothing but marketing bots oneupping each other. On the other social is easier to have real social interaction, while talking on twitter is more like people screaming in a crowd plus there are these big tv set all over the place loudness to the max splourting ads. It was a nice way to grow an asymmetric network built on shared interest as opposed to shared connections when there where genuine people on it but I hardly even login anymore.
- fragmede 10y ago
  Some people find harassment in the form of deeply personal insults, doxxing, and death threats to be unpleasant enough that it's just not worth spending any time on Twitter. This article is from August, but nothing has especially changed since then. https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/a-honeypot-for-assholes-inside-twitters-10-year-failure-to-s?utm_term=.kxPY34rJL#.syg7JqmBM https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/a-honeypot-for-asshol...
nyolfen 10y ago
it's a mostly unmoderated public forum. the price of addressing the world is having to listen back.