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I keep reading this and going, "Literally every person in the US thinks it's complicated if they think about it at all. Everyone knew." It's just such a strang

I keep reading this and going, "Literally every person in the US thinks it's complicated if they think about it at all. Everyone knew." It's just such a strange thing to say.

untog 10y ago
Not everyone knows it's complicated - the super rich like Trump a) don't have to worry about costs b) have someone arrange it for them Primarily it shows that for all the bluster about Trump standing up for the "common man", he has absolutely no idea how the common man lives.
facepalm 10y ago
I remember the complaints that he wasn't proposing something specific before the election. So actually I don't think most people are aware that it is complicated. Otherwise they wouldn't have expected a simple solution.
- pharrington 10y ago
  People putting the onus on him to do the work and thought and research and discussion necessary to create a tentative plan and at least publicly present an outline of it does not imply they "expected a simple solution." In fact, the problem is precisely that Trump apparently literally thought that creating an Obamacare replacement would be so simple that he just didn't need to think about it at all.
  - facepalm 10y ago
    Or maybe it is/was obvious that there are certain flaws in the US health care system and Obamacare that definitely have a better solution. There are other health care systems in the world, so it is obvious that Obamacare is not the only possible way to do it.
    - jadell 10y ago
      You're absolutely correct. There are many problems with Obamacare and there are many other systems we could have. The very same people licking Trump's boots now are the ones who previously shot down every proposed solution and better system when others suggested them in the first place. Which led to the compromise (not as good as it could have been) system we have now. The issue at hand is that Trump is either willfully or unknowingly ignoring that he and his people are the ones who actively prevented us from having a better system. And the only reason why they're only now acknowledging it's a hard problem, is that now they're the ones who have to fix it.
    - pharrington 10y ago
      It is not "or", it is "and"; your statement compliments mine.
- Gys 10y ago
  > So actually I don't think most people are aware that it is complicated. Otherwise they wouldn't have expected a simple solution. In my experience, especially in complicated situations people really crave for simple solutions. The essence of the success of populist politicians is to say there are simple solutions for all problems. No hard choices are needed. We can have it all.

I keep reading this and going, "Literally every person in the US thinks it's complicated if they think about it at all. Everyone knew." It's just such a strange thing to say.

untog 10y ago

Not everyone knows it's complicated - the super rich like Trump a) don't have to worry about costs b) have someone arrange it for them Primarily it shows that for all the bluster about Trump standing up for the "common man", he has absolutely no idea how the common man lives.

facepalm 10y ago

I remember the complaints that he wasn't proposing something specific before the election. So actually I don't think most people are aware that it is complicated. Otherwise they wouldn't have expected a simple solution.

pharrington 10y ago
People putting the onus on him to do the work and thought and research and discussion necessary to create a tentative plan and at least publicly present an outline of it does not imply they "expected a simple solution." In fact, the problem is precisely that Trump apparently literally thought that creating an Obamacare replacement would be so simple that he just didn't need to think about it at all.
- facepalm 10y ago
  Or maybe it is/was obvious that there are certain flaws in the US health care system and Obamacare that definitely have a better solution. There are other health care systems in the world, so it is obvious that Obamacare is not the only possible way to do it.
  - jadell 10y ago
    You're absolutely correct. There are many problems with Obamacare and there are many other systems we could have. The very same people licking Trump's boots now are the ones who previously shot down every proposed solution and better system when others suggested them in the first place. Which led to the compromise (not as good as it could have been) system we have now. The issue at hand is that Trump is either willfully or unknowingly ignoring that he and his people are the ones who actively prevented us from having a better system. And the only reason why they're only now acknowledging it's a hard problem, is that now they're the ones who have to fix it.
  - pharrington 10y ago
    It is not "or", it is "and"; your statement compliments mine.
Gys 10y ago
> So actually I don't think most people are aware that it is complicated. Otherwise they wouldn't have expected a simple solution. In my experience, especially in complicated situations people really crave for simple solutions. The essence of the success of populist politicians is to say there are simple solutions for all problems. No hard choices are needed. We can have it all.