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> But will I someday be prosecuted for the news articles I read or the songs I listen to or my amazon purchases or my google searches? The fear is not of being

> But will I someday be prosecuted for the news articles I read or the songs I listen to or my amazon purchases or my google searches? The fear is not of being prosecuted. It is of not being prosecuted. Never having your day in court. Being put on watch lists and "no fly" lists without any recourse. No way to examine the evidence against you. The fear is not a orwellian world, the fear is a world driven by kafkaesque bureaucracy. You are right that privacy may not always protect us from violence, but it will protect us from indifferent and abusive bureaucracy. See: 'I've Got Nothing to Hide' and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565)

spunker540 10y ago
If that is the political situation then I do not think it matters whether I use my own server, or encrypt all my messages. If anything we would need less privacy and more transparency!
- Paul-ish 10y ago
  >If that is the political situation then I do not think it matters whether I use my own server, or encrypt all my messages. Why is that? How can information be used against you by someone if it never falls into their hands? >If anything we would need less privacy and more transparency! Why not more of both?
  - spunker540 10y ago
    The post described a situation in which a government could do anything with or without evidence, in which case it doesn't matter if they have evidence. And I also think without us rolling our own isps, the government will always have a back door. And truthfully I think Amazon has a better chance of fighting invasive government behavior than I do as an individual.
- hackuser 10y ago
  > If that is the political situation then I do not think it matters whether I use my own server, or encrypt all my messages I don't know why it wouldn't matter. And it is the situation; you can be put on the No Fly List without your knowledge and with no recourse, and now popular legislation would not only deny travel on that basis but gun rights too.

spunker540 10y ago

If that is the political situation then I do not think it matters whether I use my own server, or encrypt all my messages. If anything we would need less privacy and more transparency!

Paul-ish 10y ago
>If that is the political situation then I do not think it matters whether I use my own server, or encrypt all my messages. Why is that? How can information be used against you by someone if it never falls into their hands? >If anything we would need less privacy and more transparency! Why not more of both?
- spunker540 10y ago
  The post described a situation in which a government could do anything with or without evidence, in which case it doesn't matter if they have evidence. And I also think without us rolling our own isps, the government will always have a back door. And truthfully I think Amazon has a better chance of fighting invasive government behavior than I do as an individual.
hackuser 10y ago
> If that is the political situation then I do not think it matters whether I use my own server, or encrypt all my messages I don't know why it wouldn't matter. And it is the situation; you can be put on the No Fly List without your knowledge and with no recourse, and now popular legislation would not only deny travel on that basis but gun rights too.