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> They have no qualms with racism -- only with racism against Han Chinese. > Affirmative Action is somewhere near the mid-bottom, not the top, of a long list o
by yosefk 10y ago
> They have no qualms with racism -- only with racism against Han Chinese.
> Affirmative Action is somewhere near the mid-bottom, not the top, of a long list of very serious problems deeply rooted in racism.
To you the fact that there are still black people who lived through Jim Crow matters more than the fact that there are Asians today who are turned down by high education institutions because of their race. Why can't a Chinese person tell you that you have no qualms with racism - only with racism against black people?
It seems to be a common viewpoint in the West that the response to racism is a hierarchy of grievances, and that for example a white person who supports preferential treatment of black people at the expense of Asians is not a racist, either because "racism" is defined to mean "disagreeing with the hierarchy of grievances", or simply because it's only "racism" when you're trying to get preferential treatment for your own race, but it's not "racism" if it's for another race. This is not however the only possible definition of racism, nor the original definition, nor the definition used in the report.
BTW I'm not sure whether a 100% color blind policy is always the best thing or not, and perhaps it depends on context. I'm just saying that I think it's a much thornier subject than people with (many different) strong positions seem to believe.
- throwaway729 10y ago> To you the fact that there are still black people who lived through Jim Crow matters more than the fact that there are Asians today who are turned down by high education institutions because of their race. Yes. Absolutely. The structural effects of 200 years of overtly racialized legal frameworks did not magically disappear with Brown v. Board. To claim that Jim Crow doesn't reverberate today in very concrete ways for millions of minorities in the US is ignorant beyond reason. And I even mentioned one concrete way that they reverberate today that is unimaginably worse than Affirmative Action (WoD). > Why can't a Chinese person tell you that you have no qualms with racism - only with racism against black people? Well first they'd have to determine if I support Affirmative Action... > ...hierarchy of grievances... This is not however the only possible definition of racism, nor the original definition, nor the definition used in the report. This discussion is about what the Chinese government chooses to emphasize. So context and degree both matter, because if China were truly critiquing racism then they'd choose the strongest argument available.