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Okay, people who read this and want to go and buy the Orange Pi Zero: PLEASE read the following before purchasing! > I can actually use an M.2 SSD with the HA

Okay, people who read this and want to go and buy the Orange Pi Zero: PLEASE read the following before purchasing! > I can actually use an M.2 SSD with the HATs available for it The NAS hat costs $7 extra plus shipping ($4 to EU for me). [0] And to my knowledge there is no case for the Ornage Pi Zero which can accommodate the NAS hat. > and POE support It doesn't support POE out of the box, and it's not 802.3af/at compliant. [1] You can use a passive PoE injector, but 5V in a CAT5/6 cable won't get you very far. You can use a higher voltage, but then you need to add a DC/DC voltage converter and unsolder some resistors from the PCB. In short: it's a lot of work to get POE working. It's not really worthwhile. Also the WiFi on the Orange Pi Zero is a piece of shit. [2] Performance is crap and there's high packet loss. Allwinner's driver is a steaming pile of shit and no one from Xunlong or Allwinner is working to make it any better. The stock images from Xunlong are using kernel 3.4! Several people from Armbian are trying to improve the driver, but there's no public datasheet and the firmware of the wireless module is pretty crash happy. Also it's 2.4GHz 1T1R (same as the Raspberry Pi W) so the performance is always going to be bad, even after (or if) Armbian manages to fix up the driver. - *Does the Orange Pi Zero outperform the Raspberry Pi (Zero, W, 1, 2)?* Yes. - *Should I buy the Orange Pi Zero for my project that needs WiFi?* No. - *Should I buy the Orange Pi Zero for a project requiring USB and Ethernet?* Yes! - *Should I use the images from Xunlong for my Orange Pi <whatever>?* Please no! Use Armbian ( https://www.armbian.com/ ) Images from Xunlong are using an ancient kernel and don't have proper power/thermal management for the SoC. With Armbian and the mainline kernel, temperatures are under control and you don't need a heat sink unless you're using 100% CPU all the time. Also, cores don't randomly shut off due to overheating. [0] https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orange-Pi-Zero-NAS-Expansion-board-Interface-board-Development-board-beyond-Raspberry-Pi/32789632568.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orange-Pi-Zero-NAS-Expansion... [1] http://linux-sunxi.org/Orange_Pi_Zero#Powering_the_board http://linux-sunxi.org/Orange_Pi_Zero#Powering_the_board [2] https://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/3243-orange-pi-zero-wireless-module-status-xradio-st-cw1200/?p=24447 https://forum.armbian.com/index.php/topic/3243-orange-pi-zer...

trome 10y ago
> The NAS hat costs $7 extra plus shipping ($4 to EU for me). [0] And to my knowledge there is no case for the Ornage Pi Zero which can accommodate the NAS hat. Sure, but your gonna be able to max out the ethernet port on an OrangePi Zero, whereas none of the Raspberry Pis can even fill half of a 100Mbps ethernet port. Printing a case isn't all that hard, or you could always build it from thin plywood, cardbord or something else if you want a case. > It doesn't support POE out of the box No, but you can wire it for any type of POE you want, whether that be 5v, 12v to 24v, or proper 48v POE. The traces are already there on the PCB, and at that price point I doubt anyone could fit in a buck converter to make it do 48v POE without increasing the cost by a few bucks. > WiFi on the Orange Pi Zero is a piece of shit. That and every other SBC, I've got a Raspberry Pi 3 on the shelf that I wrote off due to poor wifi performance. SBCs with small integrated antennas just aren't gonna have amazing wifi. Most of what was in the BSP is now mainlined in kernel 4.10 by the way. Armbian is decent, I've been quemu-debootstrapping my own images though since I'm not a fan of all the modifications they make to Debian.
- kogepathic 10y ago
  > No, but you can wire it for any type of POE you want, whether that be 5v, 12v to 24v, or proper 48v POE. The traces are already there on the PCB, and at that price point I doubt anyone could fit in a buck converter to make it do 48v POE without increasing the cost by a few bucks. So, you can buy an extra buck converter^ and solder it yourself --removing additional resistors on the PCB-- and it still won't be 802.3af/at compliant, or you can just buy a proper PoE adaptor for $10. [0] ^ Please show me a buck converter that does 48VDC->5VDC for "a few bucks" [0] http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/TL-POE10R.html http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/TL-POE10R.html
  - trome 10y ago
    What? You definitely don't need to remove any resistors onboard. Edit: Guess I'm just unfamiliar wrt POE, since I usually use 5v frankenPOE on these boards.
    - 10y ago

trome 10y ago

> The NAS hat costs $7 extra plus shipping ($4 to EU for me). [0] And to my knowledge there is no case for the Ornage Pi Zero which can accommodate the NAS hat. Sure, but your gonna be able to max out the ethernet port on an OrangePi Zero, whereas none of the Raspberry Pis can even fill half of a 100Mbps ethernet port. Printing a case isn't all that hard, or you could always build it from thin plywood, cardbord or something else if you want a case. > It doesn't support POE out of the box No, but you can wire it for any type of POE you want, whether that be 5v, 12v to 24v, or proper 48v POE. The traces are already there on the PCB, and at that price point I doubt anyone could fit in a buck converter to make it do 48v POE without increasing the cost by a few bucks. > WiFi on the Orange Pi Zero is a piece of shit. That and every other SBC, I've got a Raspberry Pi 3 on the shelf that I wrote off due to poor wifi performance. SBCs with small integrated antennas just aren't gonna have amazing wifi. Most of what was in the BSP is now mainlined in kernel 4.10 by the way. Armbian is decent, I've been quemu-debootstrapping my own images though since I'm not a fan of all the modifications they make to Debian.

kogepathic 10y ago
> No, but you can wire it for any type of POE you want, whether that be 5v, 12v to 24v, or proper 48v POE. The traces are already there on the PCB, and at that price point I doubt anyone could fit in a buck converter to make it do 48v POE without increasing the cost by a few bucks. So, you can buy an extra buck converter^ and solder it yourself --removing additional resistors on the PCB-- and it still won't be 802.3af/at compliant, or you can just buy a proper PoE adaptor for $10. [0] ^ Please show me a buck converter that does 48VDC->5VDC for "a few bucks" [0] http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/TL-POE10R.html http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/TL-POE10R.html
- trome 10y ago
  What? You definitely don't need to remove any resistors onboard. Edit: Guess I'm just unfamiliar wrt POE, since I usually use 5v frankenPOE on these boards.
  - 10y ago