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Folks, look.. I'd love to hop on the Uber hate wagon, but they didn't take liberties with my personal info in a malicious way, change the level of their service

Folks, look.. I'd love to hop on the Uber hate wagon, but they didn't take liberties with my personal info in a malicious way, change the level of their service or drastically change the terms of the agreement. That and they provided a service that I still find useful and commensurate for what I pay. I could not care less what social struggles take place internally, and my once a month fare doesn't do much to further any ill wills being schemed in a dark room somewhere at Uber HQ. Don't construe this as me endorsing any bad actors; I'm simply wondering how much of this outrage among HN posters is really translating to Lyft and Taxi conversions, and how much of it is just internet outrage and virtue signaling puffery.

izacus 10y ago
Could you explain more the point of your post? Because to me it seems like you're saying that Ubers behaviour is acceptable as long as they make money. Did I misunderstand?
- sebleon 10y ago
  I think (s)he is saying that most angry commenters will display outrage online, and then unthinkingly call an Uber within the next 24hrs to go eat a burrito.
  - jameskegel 10y ago
    This is exactly what I was saying.
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tasty_freeze 10y ago
Using "virtue signaling" is in vogue, and I don't like it. Yes, the idea is real, but it has become an easy way of dismissing the legitimacy of the person it is invoked against, without doing any work to actually support the accusation. It is also telling that it is used exclusively to undercut progressive stances -- things like feminism, liberal immigration policies, fair pay, etc. It is never used to undermine the position of someone who who has made a typically conservative stance. Let me demonstrate. Statement 1: "I wouldn't want to work there because they have a reputation as having a sexist work environment." Rejoinder 1: "Your obvious virtue signaling is a joke. I don't care what you think." Statement 2: "I believe in the constitution and believe guns are a significant foundation to the freedoms we enjoy." Rejoinder 2: "You are just virtue signaling. Ooh, look at me, I'm such a patriot. Ha ha." Why is it we only see type 1 rejoinders and not type 2?
- oculusthrift 10y ago
  i like how somehow they believe that people can't honestly believe that woman shouldn't be objectified and should be equal and therefore think that anyone expressing that must not be genuine and most just be "virtue signaling"
- Intermernet 10y ago
  Thanks for pointing this out. I've noticed this as well. But, you should be careful with comments like these, as someone will probably accuse you of both being "triggered", and of being a "cuck". I'm still not sure if I'm annoyed or delighted to see Shakespearean insults coming back into fashion, although I've yet to see some commenter riposte that someone's wit is as thick as a Tewkesbury mustard...
  - tasty_freeze 10y ago
    Whenever someone uses "cuck" unironically, it tells me what tribe they belong to. It often saves me a lot of time, as there is no need to engage them in conversation.
    - thisnotmyacc 10y ago
      Which, ironically, is virtual signaling. That's the modern world though - lets everyone retreat to your corners and come out throwing buzzwords at each other. "Misogynist" "Cuck" If only we could talk about ideas, not labels.
nikdaheratik 10y ago
Does it really matter? Uber is more popular than the other services, but it's still not profitable on its own and it is not established enough that it can afford too many major PR hits. If nothing else, this will hurt their hiring on every level, which does hurt the company in the long run.

izacus 10y ago

Could you explain more the point of your post? Because to me it seems like you're saying that Ubers behaviour is acceptable as long as they make money. Did I misunderstand?

sebleon 10y ago
I think (s)he is saying that most angry commenters will display outrage online, and then unthinkingly call an Uber within the next 24hrs to go eat a burrito.
- jameskegel 10y ago
  This is exactly what I was saying.

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tasty_freeze 10y ago

Using "virtue signaling" is in vogue, and I don't like it. Yes, the idea is real, but it has become an easy way of dismissing the legitimacy of the person it is invoked against, without doing any work to actually support the accusation. It is also telling that it is used exclusively to undercut progressive stances -- things like feminism, liberal immigration policies, fair pay, etc. It is never used to undermine the position of someone who who has made a typically conservative stance. Let me demonstrate. Statement 1: "I wouldn't want to work there because they have a reputation as having a sexist work environment." Rejoinder 1: "Your obvious virtue signaling is a joke. I don't care what you think." Statement 2: "I believe in the constitution and believe guns are a significant foundation to the freedoms we enjoy." Rejoinder 2: "You are just virtue signaling. Ooh, look at me, I'm such a patriot. Ha ha." Why is it we only see type 1 rejoinders and not type 2?

oculusthrift 10y ago
i like how somehow they believe that people can't honestly believe that woman shouldn't be objectified and should be equal and therefore think that anyone expressing that must not be genuine and most just be "virtue signaling"
Intermernet 10y ago
Thanks for pointing this out. I've noticed this as well. But, you should be careful with comments like these, as someone will probably accuse you of both being "triggered", and of being a "cuck". I'm still not sure if I'm annoyed or delighted to see Shakespearean insults coming back into fashion, although I've yet to see some commenter riposte that someone's wit is as thick as a Tewkesbury mustard...
- tasty_freeze 10y ago
  Whenever someone uses "cuck" unironically, it tells me what tribe they belong to. It often saves me a lot of time, as there is no need to engage them in conversation.
  - thisnotmyacc 10y ago
    Which, ironically, is virtual signaling. That's the modern world though - lets everyone retreat to your corners and come out throwing buzzwords at each other. "Misogynist" "Cuck" If only we could talk about ideas, not labels.

nikdaheratik 10y ago

Does it really matter? Uber is more popular than the other services, but it's still not profitable on its own and it is not established enough that it can afford too many major PR hits. If nothing else, this will hurt their hiring on every level, which does hurt the company in the long run.