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> Chinese are racist because we have very limited experience with other, non-East Asian cultures. I disagree with the assertion that Chinese are racist. You wi

by chj 10y ago

> Chinese are racist because we have very limited experience with other, non-East Asian cultures. I disagree with the assertion that Chinese are racist. You will never see a restaurant in China that says "No ---- and dogs" except in early 20th century Shanghai. I agree that Chinese are usually less sensitive about racial topics. They will carelessly call a foreigner "洋鬼子", but that's as bad as "Yankee" goes IMHO. I've heard that in US Chinese guys usually date Chinese girls. But really can we blame that they are racists? > When it comes to history, Chinese people again suffer from the box-syndrome - many are proud and fervently study Chinese history, and thus barely scrape the surface of world history. Disagree again. If you really study Chinese history, you won't find much pride there.

idra 10y ago
> You will never see a restaurant in China that says "No ---- and dogs" except in early 20th century Shanghai Very poorly chosen example, because "No Japanese and dogs" signs are incredibly common across China. [1][2][3] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_China#/media/File:Japanese-and-dogs-are-not-allowed_statement_from_a_restaurant_in_Higher_Education_Mega_Center_2007.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Chi... [2] http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/no-dogs-but-also-no-japanese-filipinos-or-vietnamese-allowed/ http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/no-dogs-but-also-no-japanese... [3] http://chinahopelive.net/2012/09/17/japanese-and-dog-no-nearing http://chinahopelive.net/2012/09/17/japanese-and-dog-no-near... > They will carelessly call a foreigner "洋鬼子", but that's as bad as "Yankee" goes IMHO. "洋鬼子" literally means "foreign devil". Are you serious?
- jimmywanger 10y ago
  > "洋鬼子" literally means "foreign devil". Are you serious? Way to not take connotations into account. If you take everything literally, you'll be offended everywhere. I call some of my best friends "bastards". Am I implying that they're born out of wedlock?
- powerapple 10y ago
  not really. Translation doesn't work that way. I think you can translate that into "foreign foxy man". Probably from the time westerns did business in China. I don't know for sure. But translation doesn't work that way. Sometimes you just cannot translate a word from one language to another. Especially names. It is a culture thing.
- chj 10y ago
  > Very poorly chosen example, because "No Japanese and dogs" signs are incredibly common across China Funny you should mention that. The relation between two people is actually quite friendly except political occasions. Also the Japanese hate is due to the world war 2, not racial. In fact we are one race. > "洋鬼子" literally means "foreign devil". 'devil' is a strong word. It's more like 'foreign strange men'.
inimino 10y ago
You couldn't be more wrong. Poll a few older Chinese people on what they think of black or Japanese people for an education.

by chj 10y ago

idra 10y ago

> You will never see a restaurant in China that says "No ---- and dogs" except in early 20th century Shanghai Very poorly chosen example, because "No Japanese and dogs" signs are incredibly common across China. [1][2][3] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_China#/media/File:Japanese-and-dogs-are-not-allowed_statement_from_a_restaurant_in_Higher_Education_Mega_Center_2007.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Chi... [2] http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/no-dogs-but-also-no-japanese-filipinos-or-vietnamese-allowed/ http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/no-dogs-but-also-no-japanese... [3] http://chinahopelive.net/2012/09/17/japanese-and-dog-no-nearing http://chinahopelive.net/2012/09/17/japanese-and-dog-no-near... > They will carelessly call a foreigner "洋鬼子", but that's as bad as "Yankee" goes IMHO. "洋鬼子" literally means "foreign devil". Are you serious?

jimmywanger 10y ago
> "洋鬼子" literally means "foreign devil". Are you serious? Way to not take connotations into account. If you take everything literally, you'll be offended everywhere. I call some of my best friends "bastards". Am I implying that they're born out of wedlock?
powerapple 10y ago
not really. Translation doesn't work that way. I think you can translate that into "foreign foxy man". Probably from the time westerns did business in China. I don't know for sure. But translation doesn't work that way. Sometimes you just cannot translate a word from one language to another. Especially names. It is a culture thing.
chj 10y ago
> Very poorly chosen example, because "No Japanese and dogs" signs are incredibly common across China Funny you should mention that. The relation between two people is actually quite friendly except political occasions. Also the Japanese hate is due to the world war 2, not racial. In fact we are one race. > "洋鬼子" literally means "foreign devil". 'devil' is a strong word. It's more like 'foreign strange men'.

inimino 10y ago

You couldn't be more wrong. Poll a few older Chinese people on what they think of black or Japanese people for an education.