Those two stories both refer to incidents that have nothing to do with affecting election outcomes, and could have been done by anyone. There's a lot of insinua

Those two stories both refer to incidents that have nothing to do with affecting election outcomes, and could have been done by anyone. There's a lot of insinuation that it's by generic "Russians" and there sure is a lot of online crime coming out of former Soviet states, but as the second article points out in the text, it can easily be criminals. This is especially the case because American personal details are so easily used for various forms of financial fraud. But we're not talking about petty theft of SSNs which may or may not come from Russians here. We're talking about deliberate foreign intelligence operations against actual voting infrastructure. Which hasn't happened.