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Do other English-speaking countries deal with this absurd demonization of commonly-heard curse words?

danpalmer 10y ago
Yeah this wouldn't be allowed in UK schools because of the swearing. "Crap" would be allowed, and "shit" might be in the context of a piece of literature being reviewed in an English class, but in a science class there's no need for it and it is considered inappropriate for children. For context, saying 'the f-word' or equivalent in earshot of a teacher would usually result in punishment.
- libeclipse 10y ago
  That's not true. I just went through secondary education in the UK and we've studied pieces of literature with quite raw swears in them. It's not a massive issue.
  - danpalmer 10y ago
    As I said in my answer, literature study is the place where it would be acceptable, but it wouldn't be appropriate in a science class where the point is not analysing the language.
mambodog 10y ago
Australia certainly doesn't have this problem, but that's probably not a surprise. As an example, here is some colourful language in a novel was a pretty standard text for English Literature classes in my state: https://books.google.com/books?id=BRwwAAAAQBAJ&q=fuck#v=snippet&q=fuck&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=BRwwAAAAQBAJ&q=fuck#v=snip...
- marcoperaza 10y ago
  On the other hand, Australia has actual censorship backed by law. >RC (Refused Classification) – Contains material that is considered offensive to the standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable adults to the extent that it should not be classified. Classification is mandatory, and films that are Refused Classification by the ACB are legally banned for sale, hire or public exhibition, carrying a maximum fine of $275,000 and/or 10 years' jail if an individual/organisation is found to be in breach of this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Boar...
gcb0 10y ago
south American countries have 14yr kids read books on a band of criminal, murderous, rapists orphans living in the outskirts of the city. But, most countries there are suffering State coups recently and some even removed science (geography, chemistry, sociology) to add State doctrine classes (where kids 6 and up are educated on their duties but never on their rights as citizens)
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > But, most countries there are suffering State coups recently Since 2000, there have been coups or attempted coups in two countries in South America (Ecuador several times, plus Venezuela). You have to take a very unusual view of "recently" to make the idea that most countries in South America have "recently" had coups.
  - gcb0 10y ago
    go read on brasil, for example. 2 weeks ago non elected party passed the law, via executive order, which discussion caused high school kids to protest all over the country: http://g1.globo.com/educacao/noticia/temer-sanciona-a-medida-provisoria-da-reforma-do-ensino-medio.ghtml http://g1.globo.com/educacao/noticia/temer-sanciona-a-medida...

Yeah this wouldn't be allowed in UK schools because of the swearing. "Crap" would be allowed, and "shit" might be in the context of a piece of literature being reviewed in an English class, but in a science class there's no need for it and it is considered inappropriate for children. For context, saying 'the f-word' or equivalent in earshot of a teacher would usually result in punishment.

libeclipse 10y ago
That's not true. I just went through secondary education in the UK and we've studied pieces of literature with quite raw swears in them. It's not a massive issue.
- danpalmer 10y ago
  As I said in my answer, literature study is the place where it would be acceptable, but it wouldn't be appropriate in a science class where the point is not analysing the language.

mambodog 10y ago

Australia certainly doesn't have this problem, but that's probably not a surprise. As an example, here is some colourful language in a novel was a pretty standard text for English Literature classes in my state: https://books.google.com/books?id=BRwwAAAAQBAJ&q=fuck#v=snippet&q=fuck&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=BRwwAAAAQBAJ&q=fuck#v=snip...

marcoperaza 10y ago
On the other hand, Australia has actual censorship backed by law. >RC (Refused Classification) – Contains material that is considered offensive to the standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable adults to the extent that it should not be classified. Classification is mandatory, and films that are Refused Classification by the ACB are legally banned for sale, hire or public exhibition, carrying a maximum fine of $275,000 and/or 10 years' jail if an individual/organisation is found to be in breach of this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Boar...

gcb0 10y ago

south American countries have 14yr kids read books on a band of criminal, murderous, rapists orphans living in the outskirts of the city. But, most countries there are suffering State coups recently and some even removed science (geography, chemistry, sociology) to add State doctrine classes (where kids 6 and up are educated on their duties but never on their rights as citizens)

dragonwriter 10y ago
> But, most countries there are suffering State coups recently Since 2000, there have been coups or attempted coups in two countries in South America (Ecuador several times, plus Venezuela). You have to take a very unusual view of "recently" to make the idea that most countries in South America have "recently" had coups.
- gcb0 10y ago
  go read on brasil, for example. 2 weeks ago non elected party passed the law, via executive order, which discussion caused high school kids to protest all over the country: http://g1.globo.com/educacao/noticia/temer-sanciona-a-medida-provisoria-da-reforma-do-ensino-medio.ghtml http://g1.globo.com/educacao/noticia/temer-sanciona-a-medida...