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Interesting article. I like the raw quotes without any unnecessary commentary by the author, but like ufmace said I do think some of the prompts may have come a
by wildrhythms 10y ago
Interesting article. I like the raw quotes without any unnecessary commentary by the author, but like ufmace said I do think some of the prompts may have come across as pushy.
I am not a Trump supporter, but I am interested in the ferocity behind his supporters' feelings of (social? economical?) oppression. This quote in particular,
>"Over the last few years, the mainstream left has resorted to name-calling and character assassination, instead of debate, any time their positions are questioned. [...] Intelligent debate has become rare."
has me scratching my head somewhat because I personally recall the last eight years to be almost the exact opposite. Did the GOP not spend eight years under a 'No Compromise pledge'[1] while targeting Obama as their political punching bag?
With regard to the last sentence, was it not Donald Trump himself who devolved the debate to name calling (or 'character assassination', as this respondent might call it)? "Crooked Hillary", "Sleepy [Ben Carson]", "Little Marco", "Lyin' Ted" all come to mind. Or is this what the respondent might consider 'intelligent debate'?
Other responses allude to personal security, particularly this one,
>"We need borders at every level of our society."
and to responses like this I think there's a question of what the term 'conservative' has become in the last eight years. Would 'the party of small government' of the past dared utter this type of sentiment? Or has Obama's presidency (and Trump's campaign) been so damaging to the GOP that their mantra of 'limited government' as defined on their own website[2] has been unexpectedly dissolved.
Maybe this individual isn't a part of the GOP. Or maybe the GOP is out of touch. Or maybe I just live in an echo chamber. Either way, I'm going to be interested to see if the GOP evolves to fit Trump's message, or if it anchors itself with over a dozen fragile candidates whose campaigns are destroyed by a two word catchphrase from a reality TV star.
Either Trump is the strongest conservative in eight years, or the GOP and Democrats are the weakest they've ever been.[3]
1 http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2010/10/28/130895390/house-republicans-vow-no-compromise http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2010/10/28/130895...
2 https://www.gop.com/platform/we-the-people/ https://www.gop.com/platform/we-the-people/
3 http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-end-of-a-republican-party/ http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-end-of-a-republican-...
- ufmace 10y ago> >"Over the last few years, the mainstream left has resorted to name-calling and character assassination, instead of debate, any time their positions are questioned. [...] Intelligent debate has become rare." > With regard to the last sentence, was it not Donald Trump himself who devolved the debate to name calling (or 'character assassination', as this respondent might call it)? "Crooked Hillary", "Sleepy [Ben Carson]", "Little Marco", "Lyin' Ted" all come to mind. Or is this what the respondent might consider 'intelligent debate'? This is exactly why Trump is so popular in some circles - they see the Left as conducting a constant character assassination campaign for decades against a largely impotent Right. Trump is seen as the first guy on the Right in decades who's willing to use the same name-calling and character assassination tactics against the left that they've been using for so long. I gotta admit, it rings rather hollow to hear left-leaning people complain about how Trump is a name-caller. Where've they been over the last 30 years when the media was busy calling every single Republican candidate racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe? Where were they when anyone opposing any of Obama's policies was called racist? Where were they when all of their people were defending all of their candidates' sins? Donald Trump has his problems for sure, but does it really help anything or "raise the level of debate" to desperately try to tie him to the KKK somehow, which the media spent pretty much the entire campaign doing? Yes, both sides have a lot of work to do to reduce partisanship in this country. Can we start by asking the Left to stop tolerating and apologizing for all of the hate and intolerance their side spews? I'll also say that the Trump campaign is certainly erratic and far outside of the mainstream GOP in a number of ways. The results of this depend on how his Presidency goes. If he crashes and burns, it may have little effect. If he's seen as at least moderately successful, it could change the whole Republican party in ways that are hard to predict.