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Is there a government resource supporting these statistics: > 3.6 million EU citizens who are already in Britain > 1.2 million British citizens living in o

Is there a government resource supporting these statistics: > 3.6 million EU citizens who are already in Britain > 1.2 million British citizens living in other EU countries I like the Economist in this regard, they seem to always reference source data. It could be explained by the differences in editorial policies or the fact that the Economist is on a weekly release schedule, so their fact-checkers have more time to backup their inputs.

Symbiote 10y ago
It would be somewhere in https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/announcements https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/announcements or https://www.ons.gov.uk/ https://www.ons.gov.uk/ https://www.ons.gov.uk/search?q=eu+citizen https://www.ons.gov.uk/search?q=eu+citizen seems a good start.
DanBC 10y ago
It's a bit complicated, but: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/august2016 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populati... > 3.2 million of the non-UK born residents were born in the EU (16% of whom held British nationality, 83% held EU nationality and 1% held non-EU nationality). > 5.4 million of the non-UK born residents were born outside of the EU (54% of whom held British nationality, 5% held EU nationality and 41% held non-EU nationality) – a reflection that EU nationals have the freedom of movement between EU countries, whereas for non-EU nationals there is an incentive to acquire British nationality. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/whatinformationisthereonbritishmigrantslivingineurope/jan2017 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populati... > Around 900,000 UK citizens are long-term residents of other EU countries; the largest age group is aged 30 to 49 years. I'm not sure where Independent is getting their numbers.
- pimlottc 10y ago
  Those ONS numbers you cited would account for 2.92 million EU citizens living in the UK (3.2m * 0.83 + 5.4m * 0.05), but there's also the possibility of UK-born EU citizens living in the UK. Which admittedly doesn't exact fit most people's definitions of immigrants but may well be included in the Independent's number. It's also not clear how how the ONS numbers account for dual citizenship, since their numbers all up exactly to 100%.
s_dev 10y ago
Theres also the fact that a large number of British emigrants are beyond the pensioner age and the bulk live in either Spain or Ireland. It will pose a massive problem for old Brits in Spain when their right to claim healthcare via the Spanish system as facilitated by the EU will cause some of them to move back to the UK and this will compounded by placing an increasing strain on NHS which has come under cuts. The EU citizens in the UK by contrast are typically young, educated working professionals and will be an economic boon for the EU to take some back.

Symbiote 10y ago

It would be somewhere in https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/announcements https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/announcements or https://www.ons.gov.uk/ https://www.ons.gov.uk/ https://www.ons.gov.uk/search?q=eu+citizen https://www.ons.gov.uk/search?q=eu+citizen seems a good start.

DanBC 10y ago

It's a bit complicated, but: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/august2016 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populati... > 3.2 million of the non-UK born residents were born in the EU (16% of whom held British nationality, 83% held EU nationality and 1% held non-EU nationality). > 5.4 million of the non-UK born residents were born outside of the EU (54% of whom held British nationality, 5% held EU nationality and 41% held non-EU nationality) – a reflection that EU nationals have the freedom of movement between EU countries, whereas for non-EU nationals there is an incentive to acquire British nationality. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/whatinformationisthereonbritishmigrantslivingineurope/jan2017 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populati... > Around 900,000 UK citizens are long-term residents of other EU countries; the largest age group is aged 30 to 49 years. I'm not sure where Independent is getting their numbers.

pimlottc 10y ago
Those ONS numbers you cited would account for 2.92 million EU citizens living in the UK (3.2m * 0.83 + 5.4m * 0.05), but there's also the possibility of UK-born EU citizens living in the UK. Which admittedly doesn't exact fit most people's definitions of immigrants but may well be included in the Independent's number. It's also not clear how how the ONS numbers account for dual citizenship, since their numbers all up exactly to 100%.

s_dev 10y ago

Theres also the fact that a large number of British emigrants are beyond the pensioner age and the bulk live in either Spain or Ireland. It will pose a massive problem for old Brits in Spain when their right to claim healthcare via the Spanish system as facilitated by the EU will cause some of them to move back to the UK and this will compounded by placing an increasing strain on NHS which has come under cuts. The EU citizens in the UK by contrast are typically young, educated working professionals and will be an economic boon for the EU to take some back.