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> If they want to kick me out Did the article? This is about a cutoff date to stop a wave of last minute immigrants. Nothing about expelling current ones. Don'

by alecco 10y ago

> If they want to kick me out Did the article? This is about a cutoff date to stop a wave of last minute immigrants. Nothing about expelling current ones. Don't let clickbait headlines make you angry.

kbart 10y ago
"Nothing about expelling current ones. " Don't be so sure about that: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/26/grandmother-deported-from-uk-despite-being-married-to-briton-for-27-years https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/26/grandmother-...
- MLR 10y ago
  This case is completely unrelated to the rights of EU citizens to live and work in the UK.
  - kbart 10y ago
    While slightly different laws may apply, it clearly shows the attitude of UK's officials.
  - Anderkent 10y ago
    For now. Presumably even if you were here for >5 years now as an EU citizen, if you went to europe for >2 years, you wouldn't be allowed in, the same as this lady.
ascorbic 10y ago
They probably won't be expelling anyone, but the UK government has explicitly said that they'll use the rights of EU citizens in the UK as a bargaining chip, so if I were an EU citizen in the UK I'd be worried.
- gadders 10y ago
  They've explicitly said they don't want to use them as a bargaining chip, but would be foolish to give it up uniliaterally.
  - toyg 10y ago
    A bit like "I don't really want to eat this delicious cake, but it would be foolish to leave it to rot."
barrkel 10y ago
How will border control at the airport distinguish between EU citizens who are allowed to come in, and those who need to fill out some paperwork and will be kicked out if they overstay their implied visa / waiver?
- toyg 10y ago
  You don't seriously expect this government to actually think through their proposals, do you? /s More seriously: permanent residency as a result of exercising treaty rights comes with a document, so some will carry that. For everyone else, you would hope the government will put in place some sort of registration scheme that is easier than treaty-rights (which currently requires 5 years of continuous settlement in UK). As for prosecuting people who overstay... eh. They are already pretty overworked and incapable of tracking most illegals, I can only imagine things will get even worse after they add hundreds of thousands new cases. Like in the US, they will compensate for this structural deficiency by being extra-brutal with the poor few they do catch (like they already do). This will drive more and more people underground, which will do wonders for crime syndicates, human traffickers and the like.

by alecco 10y ago

kbart 10y ago

"Nothing about expelling current ones. " Don't be so sure about that: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/26/grandmother-deported-from-uk-despite-being-married-to-briton-for-27-years https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/26/grandmother-...

MLR 10y ago
This case is completely unrelated to the rights of EU citizens to live and work in the UK.
- kbart 10y ago
  While slightly different laws may apply, it clearly shows the attitude of UK's officials.
- Anderkent 10y ago
  For now. Presumably even if you were here for >5 years now as an EU citizen, if you went to europe for >2 years, you wouldn't be allowed in, the same as this lady.

ascorbic 10y ago

They probably won't be expelling anyone, but the UK government has explicitly said that they'll use the rights of EU citizens in the UK as a bargaining chip, so if I were an EU citizen in the UK I'd be worried.

gadders 10y ago
They've explicitly said they don't want to use them as a bargaining chip, but would be foolish to give it up uniliaterally.
- toyg 10y ago
  A bit like "I don't really want to eat this delicious cake, but it would be foolish to leave it to rot."

barrkel 10y ago

How will border control at the airport distinguish between EU citizens who are allowed to come in, and those who need to fill out some paperwork and will be kicked out if they overstay their implied visa / waiver?

toyg 10y ago
You don't seriously expect this government to actually think through their proposals, do you? /s More seriously: permanent residency as a result of exercising treaty rights comes with a document, so some will carry that. For everyone else, you would hope the government will put in place some sort of registration scheme that is easier than treaty-rights (which currently requires 5 years of continuous settlement in UK). As for prosecuting people who overstay... eh. They are already pretty overworked and incapable of tracking most illegals, I can only imagine things will get even worse after they add hundreds of thousands new cases. Like in the US, they will compensate for this structural deficiency by being extra-brutal with the poor few they do catch (like they already do). This will drive more and more people underground, which will do wonders for crime syndicates, human traffickers and the like.