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I downvoted you for being smart enough to expect downvotes, but not to see the first, most absolutely obvious rejoinder to the facile argument you presented.

by inimino 10y ago

OJFord 10y ago
Sample size of 1 each way? Sure, I suppose the quote just encapsulated something I frequently see, and think is beyond idiotic. I'm young enough that the world I see being prepared for those not that much younger than me is, I think, going to be completely reversed from the motivation for the change. I've tried to sign up for (technical) events and talks at my university because they sounded interesting, only to be told 'this is a women-only event'. It would never even occur to me to hold a 'men-only talk on the latest foobar technique'; I suspect if I did, and refused to change my access policy, I'd be widely disparaged and perhaps kicked out! Equality - fine. Positive discrimination is just discrimination, and at some point it will be 'traditional, negative' discrimination. It's like the equality v equity cartoon - only the smaller box doesn't exist, and the middle-size child isn't short enough to qualify for a box: http://interactioninstitute.org/illustrating-equality-vs-equity/ http://interactioninstitute.org/illustrating-equality-vs-equ...
- inimino 10y ago
  > Sample size of 1 each way? That's not even it. Not only is it a sample size of 1, you are responding to a situation you know nothing about. Why did she fail? You have no idea, because it's not even your own anecdote. The fact that you're willing to jump in with "that is such bullshit" without even having the barest picture of the situation shows that your response is 1% motivated by the anecdote and 99% from your own biases and emotions about the issue. In other words, your response says more about you than about the story.

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I downvoted you for being smart enough to expect downvotes, but not to see the first, most absolutely obvious rejoinder to the facile argument you presented.

by inimino 10y ago

I downvoted you for being smart enough to expect downvotes, but not to see the first, most absolutely obvious rejoinder to the facile argument you presented.

OJFord 10y ago
Sample size of 1 each way? Sure, I suppose the quote just encapsulated something I frequently see, and think is beyond idiotic. I'm young enough that the world I see being prepared for those not that much younger than me is, I think, going to be completely reversed from the motivation for the change. I've tried to sign up for (technical) events and talks at my university because they sounded interesting, only to be told 'this is a women-only event'. It would never even occur to me to hold a 'men-only talk on the latest foobar technique'; I suspect if I did, and refused to change my access policy, I'd be widely disparaged and perhaps kicked out! Equality - fine. Positive discrimination is just discrimination, and at some point it will be 'traditional, negative' discrimination. It's like the equality v equity cartoon - only the smaller box doesn't exist, and the middle-size child isn't short enough to qualify for a box: http://interactioninstitute.org/illustrating-equality-vs-equity/ http://interactioninstitute.org/illustrating-equality-vs-equ...
- inimino 10y ago
  > Sample size of 1 each way? That's not even it. Not only is it a sample size of 1, you are responding to a situation you know nothing about. Why did she fail? You have no idea, because it's not even your own anecdote. The fact that you're willing to jump in with "that is such bullshit" without even having the barest picture of the situation shows that your response is 1% motivated by the anecdote and 99% from your own biases and emotions about the issue. In other words, your response says more about you than about the story.