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The implied meaning might have been "a significant post on a nation-state's cyber attack budget"? I'm pretty sure they did not mean "the total budget of a natio
by semi-extrinsic 10y ago
The implied meaning might have been "a significant post on a nation-state's cyber attack budget"? I'm pretty sure they did not mean "the total budget of a nation-state" or anything of the sorts, since that's obviously wrong.
One has to agree, an entity willing to drop a cool $100k on finding a single SHA1 collision to try and attack your git repo is a lot closer to nation-state level than the for-the-lulz level.
- petertodd 10y ago$100k isn't that much money, particularly since collisions can be reused for multiple attacks w/ length-extension. Heck Bitcoin has had (ineffective) spam attacks that have probably have cost around that much, and there's good reason to suspect they've been privately funded by angry trolls. There's a lot of people for whom $100k is "fuck you" money.
- dmd 10y agoThat's not what "fuck you" money means. https://www.quora.com/What-is-fuck-you-money https://www.quora.com/What-is-fuck-you-money
- phpnode 10y ago"fuck you money" is something different - it's the amount of wealth you need (varying per individual) where you can comfortably say "fuck you" to a particular job or opportunity or proposal someone makes to you if you don't want to do it. I believe the term you're looking for is something like "chump change"
- ominous 10y agoI have seen it used in that (to mean the same as chump change) in linkedin articles by random recruiters, so I guess it will suffer the fate of literally vs. figuratively. Terrible.. but use dictates meaning, if it goes mainstream.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoCan you give an example? "Fuck you money" is pretty literal already, - the money required to be able to say "fuck you." I can't see how it can make any sense in any other context.
- ominous 10y agoCan't find it. The use was as if it was "fuck it money", "it" being the fact you have enough so you're not counting expenses.
- petertodd 10y agoI'm aware of that usage of the term; I've also seen it used the way I'm using it. English is fun that way. :)
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- mikeash 10y agoThe whole point of using the "nation-state" term is to discuss something so difficult that even large companies or organized crime couldn't do it. There are plenty of non-state organizations for whom $110,000 is barely even pocket change.
- chrisseaton 10y agoWhy do people always say 'nation-state' specifically in these cases, as well? Some of the richest states in the world aren't nation-states, like the UK.
- anf 10y agoCan you clarify? I thought "nation state" was a fancy way of saying "country". Does it have a more specific meaning? Edit: wikipedia to the rescue! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_state#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_state#United_Kingdom
- keevie 10y agoI imagine because what they actually mean (state) gets ambiguous and confusing because of the united states, which are not really states in the same sense.