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I reject the idea of a religion-like science. I would say it has become what it is now because of the economic view the society has adopted to manage it, rathe
by pyrale 10y ago
I reject the idea of a religion-like science. I would say it has become what it is now because of the economic view the society has adopted to manage it, rather than because of irrational thinking.
Apparently, science production doesn't scale well, because scientists, when asked to compete for their bread-winning, find it easier to fool their managers than to produce legit science.
- mattkrause 10y agoI'm not sure you ought to be placing all the blame on the scientists: "He that pays the piper calls the tune." The current incentives are massively, massively out of whack, and favor splashy "surprising" results over rigor, so that's what we get.
- dredmorbius 10y agoCeline's 2nd Law. More generally, all information systems optimise for the incentivised reward. Science is doing that. So is online advertising-funded publishing.
- caseysoftware 10y agoYou challenge my point of "not upsetting doctrine and/or your superiors" by saying some scientists find it "easier to fool their managers than to produce legit science." Sounds like you agree with me.
- pessimizer 10y agoIn my reading, pyrale was agreeing with you, but instead of sourcing the problem as some vague social effect putting the blame specifically on our ways of funding science.
- hackuser 10y agoSaid one Chinese scientist under Mao or soon after: The Academy of Sciences is the Academy of Sciences ... It is not the Academy of Production. It is a place where one studies, not a place where one plants cabbages. It is not a potato patch, it is a place where one does science ... - Hu Yaobang