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Care to provide a citation for people being asked hard algorithmic questions by CBP before? To be clear, I don't think Trump is directly responsible for this.

Care to provide a citation for people being asked hard algorithmic questions by CBP before? To be clear, I don't think Trump is directly responsible for this. But I think he's sent a signal to fascists and racists around the country that America is for white people and it's okay to throw your weight around. He's a bully, so he's emboldened other bullies (which, unfortunately, dominate law enforcement).

nevi-me 10y ago
Thanks, you made the point better than I could have. I'll validly get some flack for starting out by linking my comment to POTUS, which is good as it teaches me to reason much better with sensitive topics where there's often no objective answer.
ThrowawayR2 10y ago
> But I think he's sent a signal to fascists and racists around the country that America is for white people and it's okay to throw your weight around You have that exactly backwards. He was voted in legitimately by the right and center because the left failed to do anything to address their grievances, justified or not, and circumstances. Trump (and Brexit, etc.) is the signal that the public is sending to the left and may heaven help us all because we're sure going to need it.
- alexvy86 10y ago
  I'm not sure I follow... the parent comment didn't seem to question the legitimacy of his election. And I also think that Trump's attitude in general can be seen by many as a validation of that behavior ("throwing your weight around" / bullying).
- morgante 10y ago
  I think the reasons Trump won and the message he's sending in office are, in fact, different things. There were a whole lot of unhappy Trump voters (people voting for him despite lots of reservations about his policies and demeanor) and a lot them were due to the left not addressing their grievances. That doesn't change the fact that his rhetoric has emboldened hard-right fascists and bullies. It's inarguable at this point.
lacampbell 10y ago
Care to provide a citation for people being asked hard algorithmic questions by CBP before? It's common practice for the CBP to ask questions someone in their field might be expected to know. Are you insinuating that Trump signed an executive order in secret to target programmers who suck at doing white board exercises?
- morgante 10y ago
  Did you read my comment at all? I literally said Trump is not directly responsible for this. And no, I do not think any or even most programmers should be expected to know how to balance a binary tree on demand.
  - lacampbell 10y ago
    > Did you read my comment at all? Yes, and I did us both the courtesy of not drawing attention to or responding to the cringiest parts of it. Others have provided stories of similar stuff happening under other presidents. Case closed.
    - morgante 10y ago
      Literally my second sentence was "I don't think Trump is directly responsible for this" and then you go and accuse me of insinuating secret executive orders. You should be banned for an argument that disingenuous.
      - grzm 10y ago
        Very frustrating, indeed. I'm not sure if banning is appropriate. Refraining from engaging in the future would probably be more prudent.
        morgante 10y ago
        It's probably time to revive my HN blocklist extension. [0] Banning is potentially going too far, but there are certain accounts which continue to not debate in good faith and contribute negatively to the discussion. [0] https://github.com/morgante/hn_blocklist https://github.com/morgante/hn_blocklist
slededit 10y ago
When I applied for my TN I had to convince the border guard I could do the job. I didn't have to balance a binary tree but I did have to name drop CS concepts.
briandear 10y ago
Do you have a citation supporting bullies dominating law enforcement -- specifically Immigration enforcement officers?
prawn 10y ago
There are a number of examples on this page of it happening previously and in a variety of locations.

nevi-me 10y ago

Thanks, you made the point better than I could have. I'll validly get some flack for starting out by linking my comment to POTUS, which is good as it teaches me to reason much better with sensitive topics where there's often no objective answer.

ThrowawayR2 10y ago

> But I think he's sent a signal to fascists and racists around the country that America is for white people and it's okay to throw your weight around You have that exactly backwards. He was voted in legitimately by the right and center because the left failed to do anything to address their grievances, justified or not, and circumstances. Trump (and Brexit, etc.) is the signal that the public is sending to the left and may heaven help us all because we're sure going to need it.

alexvy86 10y ago
I'm not sure I follow... the parent comment didn't seem to question the legitimacy of his election. And I also think that Trump's attitude in general can be seen by many as a validation of that behavior ("throwing your weight around" / bullying).
morgante 10y ago
I think the reasons Trump won and the message he's sending in office are, in fact, different things. There were a whole lot of unhappy Trump voters (people voting for him despite lots of reservations about his policies and demeanor) and a lot them were due to the left not addressing their grievances. That doesn't change the fact that his rhetoric has emboldened hard-right fascists and bullies. It's inarguable at this point.

lacampbell 10y ago

Care to provide a citation for people being asked hard algorithmic questions by CBP before? It's common practice for the CBP to ask questions someone in their field might be expected to know. Are you insinuating that Trump signed an executive order in secret to target programmers who suck at doing white board exercises?

morgante 10y ago
Did you read my comment at all? I literally said Trump is not directly responsible for this. And no, I do not think any or even most programmers should be expected to know how to balance a binary tree on demand.
- lacampbell 10y ago
  > Did you read my comment at all? Yes, and I did us both the courtesy of not drawing attention to or responding to the cringiest parts of it. Others have provided stories of similar stuff happening under other presidents. Case closed.
  - morgante 10y ago
    Literally my second sentence was "I don't think Trump is directly responsible for this" and then you go and accuse me of insinuating secret executive orders. You should be banned for an argument that disingenuous.
    - grzm 10y ago
      Very frustrating, indeed. I'm not sure if banning is appropriate. Refraining from engaging in the future would probably be more prudent.
      - morgante 10y ago
        It's probably time to revive my HN blocklist extension. [0] Banning is potentially going too far, but there are certain accounts which continue to not debate in good faith and contribute negatively to the discussion. [0] https://github.com/morgante/hn_blocklist https://github.com/morgante/hn_blocklist

slededit 10y ago

When I applied for my TN I had to convince the border guard I could do the job. I didn't have to balance a binary tree but I did have to name drop CS concepts.

briandear 10y ago

Do you have a citation supporting bullies dominating law enforcement -- specifically Immigration enforcement officers?

prawn 10y ago

There are a number of examples on this page of it happening previously and in a variety of locations.