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Yeah, I mean it's not like they did the same thing two weeks ago: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/travellers-stories/aussies-weird-immigration-inte

Yeah, I mean it's not like they did the same thing two weeks ago: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/travellers-stories/aussies-weird-immigration-interview-in-the-us/news-story/8222c65d2f12e6691ef27c9b1753e821 http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/travellers-stori... Or harassed and intimidated a 70-year old children's book author: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/australian-childrens-author-mem-fox-detained-by-us-border-control-i-sobbed-like-a-baby https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/australian-c... Or almost deported a visiting Holocaust scholar: http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-almost-deports-visiting-Holocaust-scholar-482609#article=6017ODBEQzY5MUVERUNDMjc2NDYxMUMwN0Q5RUQzODNBNjY= http://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-almost-deports-visiting-Holoc... Or maybe, just maybe, I come from a family of immigrants who has seen people around him treated this way even before we elected a racist reality tv star as POTUS.

pfarnsworth 10y ago
Stuff like this happens all the time, the press never picked up on it until Trump came into power. I posted a story of a close friend who got denied entry at the border and banned for 10 years. I've heard other stories where friends of friends )I met them and talked with them) were accused of being strippers or hookers flying to Vegas and being banned for 10 years as well. All during Obama's time, so it's not new. Border guards are facists. And all 3 of those stories you provide are non-Muslims, and 2 of them are white Australians, so it's not directly a "racist" event.
- nikdaheratik 10y ago
  There was also Mohammed Ali, Jr. this past weekend who was a US Citizen but still got detained. A schoolteacher from England who was refused entry, a Canadian Student-Athlete was was refused entry two weeks ago, all three of these are Muslims. Also, at least two US Citizens who were denied global travel cards even though they were businessmen who travel frequently, both Muslims. And it doesn't have to be a "racist" event. The administration literally said they wanted to "ban Muslims", this could be exactly the policy they wanted when they passed the Executive Order. And the only way to tell is to get Congress to do more digging.
  - briandear 10y ago
    Global Travel cards? You mean Global Entry? The requirements for that program are rather strict -- lots of people are denied those, but only the Muslim denials make the news? How does Global Entry know someone is a Muslim? It isn't on the application.
    - nikdaheratik 10y ago
      Here is the link: http://www.teenvogue.com/story/muslim-travelers-entering-the-us-are-having-their-global-entry-cards-revoked http://www.teenvogue.com/story/muslim-travelers-entering-the..., you can judge for yourself about whether the policy was fairly applied or not. The Administration opened themselves up to the question of whether they are unfairly targeting Muslims when they said they wanted to "ban Muslims" from coming to the U.S. and with all of their heated rhetoric on the campaign trail.
dang 10y ago
It's against HN's rules to use the site primarily for political or ideological battle, so please don't do that. You've obviously got some good reasons for feeling this way, but the way you've been using sarcasm to vent them is not helpful. It limits the upside to provoking indignant agreement from those who already agree, and amplifies the downside by basically throwing lit matches at a petrol station. Difficult as these divisive topics are, HN is committed to trying for thoughtful discussion and we need everyone's help with that.
- alphonsegaston 10y ago
  I apologize and will try to do better.
  - dang 10y ago
    Thanks—seriously appreciated!

pfarnsworth 10y ago

Stuff like this happens all the time, the press never picked up on it until Trump came into power. I posted a story of a close friend who got denied entry at the border and banned for 10 years. I've heard other stories where friends of friends )I met them and talked with them) were accused of being strippers or hookers flying to Vegas and being banned for 10 years as well. All during Obama's time, so it's not new. Border guards are facists. And all 3 of those stories you provide are non-Muslims, and 2 of them are white Australians, so it's not directly a "racist" event.

nikdaheratik 10y ago
There was also Mohammed Ali, Jr. this past weekend who was a US Citizen but still got detained. A schoolteacher from England who was refused entry, a Canadian Student-Athlete was was refused entry two weeks ago, all three of these are Muslims. Also, at least two US Citizens who were denied global travel cards even though they were businessmen who travel frequently, both Muslims. And it doesn't have to be a "racist" event. The administration literally said they wanted to "ban Muslims", this could be exactly the policy they wanted when they passed the Executive Order. And the only way to tell is to get Congress to do more digging.
- briandear 10y ago
  Global Travel cards? You mean Global Entry? The requirements for that program are rather strict -- lots of people are denied those, but only the Muslim denials make the news? How does Global Entry know someone is a Muslim? It isn't on the application.
  - nikdaheratik 10y ago
    Here is the link: http://www.teenvogue.com/story/muslim-travelers-entering-the-us-are-having-their-global-entry-cards-revoked http://www.teenvogue.com/story/muslim-travelers-entering-the..., you can judge for yourself about whether the policy was fairly applied or not. The Administration opened themselves up to the question of whether they are unfairly targeting Muslims when they said they wanted to "ban Muslims" from coming to the U.S. and with all of their heated rhetoric on the campaign trail.

dang 10y ago

It's against HN's rules to use the site primarily for political or ideological battle, so please don't do that. You've obviously got some good reasons for feeling this way, but the way you've been using sarcasm to vent them is not helpful. It limits the upside to provoking indignant agreement from those who already agree, and amplifies the downside by basically throwing lit matches at a petrol station. Difficult as these divisive topics are, HN is committed to trying for thoughtful discussion and we need everyone's help with that.

alphonsegaston 10y ago
I apologize and will try to do better.
- dang 10y ago
  Thanks—seriously appreciated!