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I am too poor to access a rift or htc, the PSVR seems like it would soil my experience. Like those 720 HD ready TVs. How do HN people feel about VR?

by Fifer82 10y ago

bitwize 10y ago
PlayStation VR (and ordinary PS4) is currently the only platform on which Rez Infinite is available. Playing Rez Infinite in VR has been the most intense gaming experience of my life -- I'm not shitting you.
- mquander 10y ago
  +1 to this. Rez Infinite was close to the best few hours I have ever spent with a computer. That said, most of my coworkers didn't seem to get the same thing out of it that I did.
  - musha68k 10y ago
    Die-hard Rez fan here as well :) so damn sweet, total flow state for me (surely not for everyone unfortunately).
tchock23 10y ago
If you don't have the money for rift or vive, PSVR is a solid choice. Doesn't have quite the content (yet), but what is there is high quality. The form factor is much more comfortable than the rift or vive...
- ethbro 10y ago
  How is Sony with regards to indie developers? I haven't been following that, but I gather that Steam / Sony / Microsoft have all been trying to lower barriers to entry. Barring a major publisher (e.g. Capcom from the article) taking a leap of faith, I think that's where a lot of the quality first gen content is going to come from.
  - danso 10y ago
    For PSVR, Sony seems to be rather lenient. I say this because there's a high amount of shovelware on PSVR from indie developers, like this walking screensaver: http://pureplaystation.com/review-perfect-ps4psvr/2016/12/ http://pureplaystation.com/review-perfect-ps4psvr/2016/12/ I think it's good to have high-quality ports to help advance the platform (Arizona Sunshine, Fruit Ninja), but given the substantial technical challenges of VR and its relatively small audience, I think quality titles are going to require committed funding by Sony.
  - Tiktaalik 10y ago
    Typically Sony has been the best place to find indie games outside of Steam and I'm hoping to see a lot more indie games going forward. Super Hypercube is an indie game for PSVR that is considered to be quite good.
  - outworlder 10y ago
    It does not have an early access program though. Which means it is missing out on a bunch of things. For VR, Subnautica comes to mind.
  - kristofferR 10y ago
    Some would argue that they're too nice, as the Life of Black Tiger incident showed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM523jjrvf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM523jjrvf4 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-life-of-black-tiger-is-the-worst-ps4-game-weve-ever-played http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-life-o...
drewrv 10y ago
I love my vive but VR isn't quite ready for prime time yet. It's clunky and overpriced and there's a limited library. It feels like we're in the "Palm pilot" stage of the technology. Eventually an "iPhone" will come out, but there are technical and UI hurdles to overcome before that can happen. That being said, it's also an exciting time to get involved. VR owners get to experiment with different play styles and UIs and be part of a small dedicated community. Game devs hang out on /r/vive and accept feedback and ideas. And if you already know how to code, getting started in VR development is pretty easy.
- andybak 10y ago
  Yep. If you've got an ounce of "early adopter" in you then it's a fantastic time to be involved. There's tons of great content if you're prepared for the odd rough edge and the lack of decent curation.
- pvg 10y ago
  That sounds more like the Newton. The Palm pilot was a massive success - a smaller, cheaper PDA that wasn't just for gadget nerds.
- stale2002 10y ago
  The VR technology is honestly very good right now, if we are talking about the actual hardware. What we don't have yet is content. We need 1 company to put out a triple A game, and it will hit mainstream.
andybak 10y ago
There is so much free and cheap content for the Vive that has provided me endless entertainment I have a feeling that you'll end up spending the same amount you'd save on PSVR buying content. It's similar to the PC vs console economics. I almost never buy games at full price. The money I spent over the cost a console is definitely cancelled out by the money I've saved with Steam sales, Humble Bundles etc.
blhack 10y ago
I have tried almost every iteration of consumer VR from the last few years. Oculus DK1, DK2, and CV1, Vive, PSVR, and cardboard. I want to say that Vive is by far the best experience, but I don't think that you're going to get ruined by trying the PSVR first, especially not if you have a bit of imagination/ability to dream about what the technology will become. Even back in the DK1 days, it was very very clear that this was going to be an incredible technology, and I think the PSVR is better than that was.
jasonlotito 10y ago
I have both the Rift and PSVR. I'm happy to have both. Of the two, Rift is technically superior, but not enough that I feel like the PSVR is a let down. In fact, the PSVR is much more comfortable than the Rift, hands down. If you already have a PS4, and want to get into VR, the PSVR is a solid choice.

I am too poor to access a rift or htc, the PSVR seems like it would soil my experience. Like those 720 HD ready TVs. How do HN people feel about VR?

by Fifer82 10y ago

I am too poor to access a rift or htc, the PSVR seems like it would soil my experience. Like those 720 HD ready TVs. How do HN people feel about VR?

bitwize 10y ago

PlayStation VR (and ordinary PS4) is currently the only platform on which Rez Infinite is available. Playing Rez Infinite in VR has been the most intense gaming experience of my life -- I'm not shitting you.

mquander 10y ago
+1 to this. Rez Infinite was close to the best few hours I have ever spent with a computer. That said, most of my coworkers didn't seem to get the same thing out of it that I did.
- musha68k 10y ago
  Die-hard Rez fan here as well :) so damn sweet, total flow state for me (surely not for everyone unfortunately).

tchock23 10y ago

If you don't have the money for rift or vive, PSVR is a solid choice. Doesn't have quite the content (yet), but what is there is high quality. The form factor is much more comfortable than the rift or vive...

ethbro 10y ago
How is Sony with regards to indie developers? I haven't been following that, but I gather that Steam / Sony / Microsoft have all been trying to lower barriers to entry. Barring a major publisher (e.g. Capcom from the article) taking a leap of faith, I think that's where a lot of the quality first gen content is going to come from.
- danso 10y ago
  For PSVR, Sony seems to be rather lenient. I say this because there's a high amount of shovelware on PSVR from indie developers, like this walking screensaver: http://pureplaystation.com/review-perfect-ps4psvr/2016/12/ http://pureplaystation.com/review-perfect-ps4psvr/2016/12/ I think it's good to have high-quality ports to help advance the platform (Arizona Sunshine, Fruit Ninja), but given the substantial technical challenges of VR and its relatively small audience, I think quality titles are going to require committed funding by Sony.
- Tiktaalik 10y ago
  Typically Sony has been the best place to find indie games outside of Steam and I'm hoping to see a lot more indie games going forward. Super Hypercube is an indie game for PSVR that is considered to be quite good.
- outworlder 10y ago
  It does not have an early access program though. Which means it is missing out on a bunch of things. For VR, Subnautica comes to mind.
- kristofferR 10y ago
  Some would argue that they're too nice, as the Life of Black Tiger incident showed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM523jjrvf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM523jjrvf4 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-life-of-black-tiger-is-the-worst-ps4-game-weve-ever-played http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-life-o...

drewrv 10y ago

I love my vive but VR isn't quite ready for prime time yet. It's clunky and overpriced and there's a limited library. It feels like we're in the "Palm pilot" stage of the technology. Eventually an "iPhone" will come out, but there are technical and UI hurdles to overcome before that can happen. That being said, it's also an exciting time to get involved. VR owners get to experiment with different play styles and UIs and be part of a small dedicated community. Game devs hang out on /r/vive and accept feedback and ideas. And if you already know how to code, getting started in VR development is pretty easy.

andybak 10y ago
Yep. If you've got an ounce of "early adopter" in you then it's a fantastic time to be involved. There's tons of great content if you're prepared for the odd rough edge and the lack of decent curation.
pvg 10y ago
That sounds more like the Newton. The Palm pilot was a massive success - a smaller, cheaper PDA that wasn't just for gadget nerds.
stale2002 10y ago
The VR technology is honestly very good right now, if we are talking about the actual hardware. What we don't have yet is content. We need 1 company to put out a triple A game, and it will hit mainstream.

andybak 10y ago

There is so much free and cheap content for the Vive that has provided me endless entertainment I have a feeling that you'll end up spending the same amount you'd save on PSVR buying content. It's similar to the PC vs console economics. I almost never buy games at full price. The money I spent over the cost a console is definitely cancelled out by the money I've saved with Steam sales, Humble Bundles etc.

blhack 10y ago

I have tried almost every iteration of consumer VR from the last few years. Oculus DK1, DK2, and CV1, Vive, PSVR, and cardboard. I want to say that Vive is by far the best experience, but I don't think that you're going to get ruined by trying the PSVR first, especially not if you have a bit of imagination/ability to dream about what the technology will become. Even back in the DK1 days, it was very very clear that this was going to be an incredible technology, and I think the PSVR is better than that was.

jasonlotito 10y ago

I have both the Rift and PSVR. I'm happy to have both. Of the two, Rift is technically superior, but not enough that I feel like the PSVR is a let down. In fact, the PSVR is much more comfortable than the Rift, hands down. If you already have a PS4, and want to get into VR, the PSVR is a solid choice.