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A trap most of us will fall in to is to assume intents of the anonymous strangers with which we talk on these message boards. In serious academic-ish discussion
by thesagan 10y ago
A trap most of us will fall in to is to assume intents of the anonymous strangers with which we talk on these message boards. In serious academic-ish discussion, I think we should stick as closely to the topic at-hand and avoid pointing out patterns of argumentation where we're easily led into the abyss of us-vs-them and accusations of manipulation. (Manipulation might be rampant, but hard to objectively define anonymously.)
The GP does some finger pointing ("you know that they are not being honest with you.") which might have detracted subsequent (and valid) questions that could be answered in a more pleasant sense by other HNers. We should set an example, if we're feeling superior.
- jjoonathan 10y ago> In serious academic-ish discussion, I think we should stick as closely to the topic at-hand and avoid... So does that mean you're willing to do the legwork to dig up the IPCC reports, chase down the studies they reference, and put together an academic-quality rebuttal? Or are you just asking for someone else to do it? In either case I offer my sincere gratitude to anyone willing to fight the weighted odds. It ain't gonna be me, though. Been there, done that. I've got a few hours of weekend left, and I aim to enjoy them.
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- thesagan 10y agoI'll rephrase: I'm asking for less speculation on the [malicious] intent of someone with whom one may disagree on HN. Poisons the discussion even worse.
- jjoonathan 10y agoIt's easy to hand-wring about conflict. It's hard to fight a dishonorable opponent honorably. You have the power to make this change. Not retroactively in this discussion, of course, but in the next. Spend the time to research the truth, the effort to write a scholarly reply, and there will be no need for responses like the one you saw me make.
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- thesagan 10y agoI'm with you on almost all those points! Getting older I realize more and more the importance of realizing the energy "the fight" has taken out of me, and opening up grounds for others with energy reserves to carry on the intellectual battles. I think I'm on the sidelines for a while.