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I think this is great news. As someone who blogs irregularly, I don't want to spend a ton of time integrating each discussion area into my site. This seems like

I think this is great news. As someone who blogs irregularly, I don't want to spend a ton of time integrating each discussion area into my site. This seems like it could lead to a very elligent way to automatically get that integration. It would be great to also get notified as discussion is happening in the various sites, without reading the spec, it's not clear to me if that's part of the standard.

no_protocol 10y ago
> It would be great to also get notified as discussion is happening in the various sites, without reading the spec, it's not clear to me if that's part of the standard. Not really.
- mathoff 10y ago
  "The Publisher receives a notification for any annotations made on their site which are explicitly published publicly. There are two proposed mechanisms for this: 1) a client-side event which informs the page of the annotation's publication URLs; 2) a server-side notification sent to the publisher's “well-known” contact address. Either or both of these mechanisms may be used, each with its own use cases." https://www.w3.org/annotation/diagrams/annotation-architecture.svg https://www.w3.org/annotation/diagrams/annotation-architectu...
  - gaxun 10y ago
    Read the W3C Recommendations for the protocol and data model. Neither has any mention whatsoever of a notification or alert: https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-protocol/ https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-protocol/ https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/ https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/ Any type of notification would be an extra feature performed by annotation software, but is not a part of the specification. Your annotation client could query the annotation server at a known endpoint for new annotations. The results should be ordered and paginated, but the order and pagination used seem to be at the discretion of individual implementations.
    - mathoff 10y ago
      Hm... that would be really sad.
detaro 10y ago
For notification of comments on other pages you might be interested in the Webmention spec (which is a lot simpler and has some active use already), which is a modernized take on pingbacks by the community around indieweb.org: https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention (There even are tools already to get notifications about twitter mentions etc. via it)
- rrix2 10y ago
  webmention standard can be integrated with static HTML through webmention.io and brid.gy; it's great for no-nonsense comment integration.
- bluejekyll 10y ago
  Cool. I'll check that out.

no_protocol 10y ago

> It would be great to also get notified as discussion is happening in the various sites, without reading the spec, it's not clear to me if that's part of the standard. Not really.

mathoff 10y ago
"The Publisher receives a notification for any annotations made on their site which are explicitly published publicly. There are two proposed mechanisms for this: 1) a client-side event which informs the page of the annotation's publication URLs; 2) a server-side notification sent to the publisher's “well-known” contact address. Either or both of these mechanisms may be used, each with its own use cases." https://www.w3.org/annotation/diagrams/annotation-architecture.svg https://www.w3.org/annotation/diagrams/annotation-architectu...
- gaxun 10y ago
  Read the W3C Recommendations for the protocol and data model. Neither has any mention whatsoever of a notification or alert: https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-protocol/ https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-protocol/ https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/ https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/ Any type of notification would be an extra feature performed by annotation software, but is not a part of the specification. Your annotation client could query the annotation server at a known endpoint for new annotations. The results should be ordered and paginated, but the order and pagination used seem to be at the discretion of individual implementations.
  - mathoff 10y ago
    Hm... that would be really sad.

detaro 10y ago

For notification of comments on other pages you might be interested in the Webmention spec (which is a lot simpler and has some active use already), which is a modernized take on pingbacks by the community around indieweb.org: https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention (There even are tools already to get notifications about twitter mentions etc. via it)

rrix2 10y ago
webmention standard can be integrated with static HTML through webmention.io and brid.gy; it's great for no-nonsense comment integration.
bluejekyll 10y ago
Cool. I'll check that out.