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>For me, I'm looking forward to a AI grammar and contextual spelling checker that will make all grama nazi's obsolete. I'm not. I feel like human language is m

>For me, I'm looking forward to a AI grammar and contextual spelling checker that will make all grama nazi's obsolete. I'm not. I feel like human language is meant to be fluid and to evolve as we do. This would potentially lead to more of a global monoculture than we are already starting to get.

Zenst 10y ago
That is a very fair observation and one in which I had not considered. I was somewhat biased in thinking about the aspect that it would make universal translation closer to becoming a reality. So it is somewhat a chaos aspect in languages I suppose that does allow evolution of the language. With that the whole aspect could voice translation add's another aspect to this and perhaps tackling keyboard inputs upon a keyboard layout that is designed to be the worst possible ever layout is an area due to die off sooner than we think. Though the prospect of forcing generations to endure, even if they do not know about typewriters does bemuse me.
- jcranmer 10y ago
  In the Classical era, grammar study was focused on a few idealized languages (Latin, Greek, Sanskrit); when people in the Early Modern decided to apply these rules to vernaculars, they ran into the problem that many modern languages don't follow such clean rules. The most common response was to try to insist that things that didn't look Latin shouldn't be considered "grammatical." Only quite recently did people begin working out how to describe the grammar of languages like English. One consequence is that almost everything you're taught about English in school is completely and totally wrong. There's the completely bogus prescriptivisms that have no grounding (e.g., thou shall not end a sentence with a preposition). But even basic things like "what are the parts of speech" are pretty much wrong, being derived primarily from "this was what this Latin scholar said 2 millennia ago about a language that has a distant linguistic relationship to English." It's also worth pointing out that the trend to conserve spelling and the written form probably obscures the underlying grammar as it changes. The French clitic pronouns seem rather more like recently-introduced inflections to the verbs rather than clitics, and the 's of English acts rather more like a particle than a genitive case marker.

Zenst 10y ago

That is a very fair observation and one in which I had not considered. I was somewhat biased in thinking about the aspect that it would make universal translation closer to becoming a reality. So it is somewhat a chaos aspect in languages I suppose that does allow evolution of the language. With that the whole aspect could voice translation add's another aspect to this and perhaps tackling keyboard inputs upon a keyboard layout that is designed to be the worst possible ever layout is an area due to die off sooner than we think. Though the prospect of forcing generations to endure, even if they do not know about typewriters does bemuse me.

jcranmer 10y ago
In the Classical era, grammar study was focused on a few idealized languages (Latin, Greek, Sanskrit); when people in the Early Modern decided to apply these rules to vernaculars, they ran into the problem that many modern languages don't follow such clean rules. The most common response was to try to insist that things that didn't look Latin shouldn't be considered "grammatical." Only quite recently did people begin working out how to describe the grammar of languages like English. One consequence is that almost everything you're taught about English in school is completely and totally wrong. There's the completely bogus prescriptivisms that have no grounding (e.g., thou shall not end a sentence with a preposition). But even basic things like "what are the parts of speech" are pretty much wrong, being derived primarily from "this was what this Latin scholar said 2 millennia ago about a language that has a distant linguistic relationship to English." It's also worth pointing out that the trend to conserve spelling and the written form probably obscures the underlying grammar as it changes. The French clitic pronouns seem rather more like recently-introduced inflections to the verbs rather than clitics, and the 's of English acts rather more like a particle than a genitive case marker.