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"And there you've slung just enough mud to implicate Obama in the same kind of antics without offering any tangible proof. " Are you kidding? Obama invented th
by edblarney 10y ago
"And there you've slung just enough mud to implicate Obama in the same kind of antics without offering any tangible proof. "
Are you kidding? Obama invented the use of social tools to get elected. [1]
Google, who, as an org make up probably 95% Obama voters, have a deep relationship with government [2]. And Sheryl Sandberg worked for the Democratic apparatus.
There's nothing entirely wrong with either things (possibly), but the point is that it's 'nefarious' when conservatives have money and access but not when massive and institutional entities like Google do for the Democrats? Google and Facebook are two organizations that, if they chose to, could control the outcome of the election - that's a pretty scary conflict of interest. Exxon certainly couldn't. Where is the uproar?
Surely, it's worth pointing out where 'big money/business and politics collide', but it's very hypocritical to scream about the plight of one side, and not the other.
If anything - this somewhat hypocritical posturing, generally supported by the MSM, gives credence to those who argue the MSM is at least softly biased in one direction. Though I tend to generally trust most of the big news orgs, I believe there is a degree of 'sidedness' on this issue.
[1] http://mprcenter.org/blog/2013/01/how-obama-won-the-social-media-battle-in-the-2012-presidential-campaign/ http://mprcenter.org/blog/2013/01/how-obama-won-the-social-m...
[2] https://googletransparencyproject.org/articles/googles-revolving-door-us https://googletransparencyproject.org/articles/googles-revol...
- makomk 10y agoYeah, there was a whole wave of breathless reporting about the wonders of the Obama campaign's use of big data, microtargeting, social media, etc after the 2008 and 2012 elections and how the Republicans' failure to do this proved they were behind the times. It takes about five seconds with Google to discover this. Compare, for example, this article with http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/victory_lab/2012/10/obama_s_secret_weapon_democrats_have_a_massive_advantage_in_targeting_and.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/victory_lab/... or http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/harper-reed-obama-campaign-microtargeting http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/harper-reed-obam...
- nickpsecurity 10y ago"how the Republicans' failure to do this proved they were behind the times" I distinctly remember that. Then there's a fit now among liberals that the Republicans are doing what liberals say they should've been doing. Hell, they're doing it better. Liberals will need to up their game plus have a final candidate that's worth something in next election.
- metaobject 10y agoUp their game by enlisting the help of a foreign nation to help stand up an entire group of social network trolls whose entire mission is to muddy the waters and push fabricated stories?
- nickpsecurity 10y agoElections have always been dirty. It seems winners now use social media or trolls. So be it until that is banned and policed. Losing a Presidency because you followed the rules feels much worse than gaining it breaking some. I don't even think it's possible any more for honest plays to happen given superficial voters with conflicting needs/wants that cost average of $200 mil of others's money to reach.