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Ideas are not worthless
A lot of folks here claim that ideas are worthless without execution. It seems to be the popular wisdom. I wanted to toss out arguments to the contrary and then give away a product idea based on the principle.
This post is sparked by a thread earlier today that almost turned into a discussion on the value of ideas: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=136970
Ideas need execution to have their value realized. That doesn't mean the ideas are worthless! A leader has value, but only with followers. The most talented salespeople depend on development for their worth. A pill doesn't do anything until you swallow it -- but you'll still be happy to have it, and you can pass one around before someone claims it.
If all ideas had zero value, then it would be meaningless to say that one idea is better than another.
The entire intellectual property system, whatever its flaws, was constructed to try and allow idea-creators to capitalize on the value of the idea independent of the execution.
It's difficult to separate the value of the idea from its execution for two reasons. First, unlike pills, ideas spread by replication; when you give one away you keep yours. Second, when product ideas spread, the value to each holder decreases since there's an increase in the probability of a more skillful execution by someone else.
If there were some way of making the economics of ideas work more like the economics of pills, a startup could presumably intermediate the market and make a profit. Poppysan would be able to claim some of the value for his/her good idea by passing it someone with more freedom to execute.
Here's one way I think it might work. And I don't have the time or passion to execute on it!
The idea is to create an idea-market, where people can buy and sell ideas. The ideas could be simple, like a sentence ("Create a Javascript object that makes server requests without a full page request";"Buy that Google stock, I think it'll hit $300") or full papers like Nielsen Norman sells. How do you sell something if showing it to someone gives it all away? Clearly, you can't show before they pay. But why do you buy something you haven't seen yet?
Well, you need to trust the seller. When you buy a subscription to a magazine or newspaper, it's because you trust the editors not to shove crap at you once they have your money. At first, you build this trust through a track record. If a random stranger walked up to me and said, "I have a great product idea and nobody but you available to execute on it, but I want $1000 first," I'd tell them to fuck off. If pg did the same, I'd call my bank. And I've never met him.
We don't want a daily startup idea for $5, we only want a few good ones. So our trust system needs to be distributed --- A seller's trust needs to be built on a few transactions each with many buyers, rather than deep 'relationships' with few buyers. One way this could work: Would-be sellers give away a few clever thoughts, free, to build up a reputation for insightful analysis; buyers rate ideas; sellers gain reputation points through the ratings; buyers ratings for individual ratings are compared to each other to keep the buyers honest; sellers with good reputations are able to raise their prices. Pleasant side-effect/higher purpose/path to billion dollars: Deprecate the patent system by becoming the central global clearing-house for intellectual property exchange, partnering with universities, corporations, governments and entrepreneurs.
It's investment columns taken digital. eBay for ideas. IP for the new millenium. Whatever.
Or maybe it's a silly idea worth nothing at all!
- deltapoint 19y agoGood idea, but it is still rough. The actual value of the idea wouldn't matter in an auction setting, it would just be the perceived value that would matter. And that perception would usually be flawed. IP has value. I don't know if a mere idea with no protection is IP though. Information is meant to disseminate. It is nearly impossible to manage the spread of the information. Nothing stops someone from reselling an idea or just distributing it freely after distribution. Usually when ideas are sold there is a specific context for the ideas. Consultants can come in and just give advice (ideas) and receive compensation, but they are solving a problem. Not just a random idea.
- whacked_new 19y agoThe sentiment that ideas are worthless without execution is generally true. This can be easily explained, as "execution" can be broken down into two components: actions, and details. Action is obvious: no action, no product. Details, well, are "where the devil is." A really good idea will include enough details, that it spills over into "execution." It's not just an idea-market. It's an idea-market where people submit via a form that looks like this, click that button, get scored this way. We will launch it by doing this, talking to those people, and focusing on this sector. We will convert this into physical and monetary value by selling this service. Now, that may be an idea that is worth something. While you have described certain approaches, until you have a very sharp focus that describes exactly how to get from point A to B (nothing to full product), which means not just "one way to do this is...", but "this is how we will do it," then the idea really is not "executable."
- ambition 19y agoEffectively, what you're saying is "fuzzy" ideas have low value, and we would end up with market for full business plans.
- whacked_new 19y agoPretty much, yes. Amusingly, language is "fuzzy" by nature, which is why human-human communication is so verbose. So the word "ideas" has debatable meaning. What you call an idea, I may call a whole business plan, or vice verse, or some other combination of things. Aside of that, someone indeed has created a "business plan" market website. I don't remember what it's called, but if you can't find it, I can try fishing it out.