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Interesting specs for an IoT device. It looks more powerful than most current home PCs or laptops. How would you feel about hosting a small cloud or Kubernetes
by stephengillie 10y ago
Interesting specs for an IoT device. It looks more powerful than most current home PCs or laptops. How would you feel about hosting a small cloud or Kubernetes cluster on your coffee maker?
up to 16 low power x86 cores at up to 2.2GHz
fully support Intel’s VT-d hardware virtualization
up to 64 GB of single-channel DDR4-1866 or DDR3L-1600 ECC memory
PCIe 3.0 x16 controller (with x2, x4 and x8 bifurcation),
16 SATA 3.0 ports
four 10 GbE controllers
four USB 3.0 ports
different TDPs starting at 8.5 W
With 4x10GbE controllers, I almost want some sort of government-mandated firewall to be built in.
- Retric 10y agoThese are fairly anemic processors so I suspect you would be disappointed trying to run a desktop OS with one. Let alone go head to head with a modern PC.
- ajross 10y agoThere are atom (the older silvermont core, not goldmont yet I think) laptops in the market already. They run casual desktop stuff just fine.
- stephengillie 10y agoI'm posting from an older Thinkpad with a Core 2 Duo. Comparing this to a C2750, they appear comparable[0]. This system runs Windows 10 fine, and so I don't see why the C2750 (and C3000) would not as well. Granted, an i5 outperforms them both. [0] http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8600-vs-Intel-Atom-C2750 http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8600-vs-Intel-Atom-...
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- karpodiem 10y agorandom question - do those older machines support a UEFI OS install? I'm a bit wary from a security standpoint of going back to MBR.
- yuhong 10y agoNo, they are too old to have UEFI at all.
- yellowapple 10y agoUEFI's security benefits are dubious anyway unless you're using your own Secure Boot keys; else, you're likely relying on Microsoft's signing key.
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago> This system runs Windows 10 fine Do you have any tips on how? At work I have a brand new Dell Precision 5510 with Win10 that I had to upgrade to 32 GB RAM when using two full-HD external monitors (internal 4K display off) running Firefox and Autodesk Inventor, because on 16GB it would randomly crap out and bluescreen (with the new useless "sad smiley" type BSOD). Mind you, FF and Inventor were only using ~6GB RAM total.
- wott 10y agoEr... I can't help you for I have never used a computer with more than 4 GB. And I was running dual monitors in the days when 256MB was a very decent setup. You had to upgrade to 32 GB RAM?
- semi-extrinsic 10y agoI guess I should distinguish between when I had bluescreens, and when Win10 crashed the display manager saying "your system is low on memory". And only when running on dual monitors, never on the internal 4K display (which oddly enough has more total pixels). The "out of memory" errors led me to upgrade to 32 GB.
- twoodfin 10y agoThat really sounds like a hardware problem.
- npmanor 10y agoDo you have the Samsung NVMe driver installed? I had a similar issue on a fresh Windows 10 install that was solved by installing the driver directly from Samsung (the one for the 950 Pro works if I remember correctly).
- semi-extrinsic 10y agoI'll try that, thanks.
- mappu 10y ago
- chx 10y ago"older" doesn't even begin to describe it, mind you. These are ten years old. A six year old Sandy Bridge (T420, X220 that series of ThinkPads) is going to wipe the floor with these Atom CPUs.
- gonzo 10y agoDepends on the application.
- gpderetta 10y agoIn single thread performance the ancient core 2 is going to destroy the Atom, even at the same clock rate. The only thing good in the atom is the large core count [1] which makes up for the anemic single core performance, which is nice for small servers but pointless for desktops. [1] from a performance point of view of course. It probably consumes significantly less.
- newman314 10y agoWith a SSD, I would think they would be acceptable for light tasks. I've got a 4 core now running ESX and it works fine for the most part, having a 16 core would be interesting to step up to to have more things running.
- wyager 10y agoAssuming you weren't being sardonic, any form of "government-mandated firewall" would be worse than useless, and doesn't even really make sense in this context.
- derefr 10y ago> How would you feel about hosting a small cloud or Kubernetes cluster on your coffee maker? The thing I expect these to lead to is for everyone's router to become an implicit home server, and for that to lead to changes in the way we write "cloud" services. Right now, a lot of background "checking up on things" for services like group chat apps, happens directly on people's phones, because they're (almost) always on and (almost) always connected to the Internet. Now imagine that it's guaranteed that everyone in the world has an implicit personal (or family) server their phone can communicate with, and can automatically reach over and launch processes on. All the background logic would move to the server. Phone apps (and a lot of computer apps) would become simple thin-clients that talk to your home server. It'd be like IRC bouncers, but for everything, and for everyone. Start a multiplayer game? The lobby server launches automatically on your router. Install a "free VoIP service" app? You've actually just installed an Asterisk server on your router; the app just configures it and acts as a softphone for it. Want a blog? The button on WordPress.com doesn't start up a LAMP container in their cloud; it starts a LAMP container on your router. Etc.
- DaiPlusPlus 10y agoNah. Home internet connections are still terrible. 2017 now and we still don't have IPv6 on residential connections (I'm on Wave and they said IPv6 deployment is still over a year away).
- derefr 10y agoHome internet connections in the US are terrible. Such a shift doesn't have to start in the US (though American companies would probably be the ones making the products.)
- morganvachon 10y agoI think IPV6 in the US is regional. I'm in the Atlanta area and I've been on IPV6 for at least two years with Comcast. This is a residential line, not a business line. This is the result of checking my connection for IPV6 compatibility: http://imgur.com/zUXjXWm http://imgur.com/zUXjXWm
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