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Same here, only new thing I touched in 4 years has been GCP, and only then to discover I couldn't use it due to a ridiculous and completely undocumented embargo

by _wmd 10y ago

Same here, only new thing I touched in 4 years has been GCP, and only then to discover I couldn't use it due to a ridiculous and completely undocumented embargo they implement for users in some countries. Same old Google crap ignoring or failing to understand the customer "Let's use Hangouts" "Sorry what's that?" "Google's screen sharing" "Just use Skype" "Ok" Don't forget after investing the entire company into Plus and failing to gain traction, they pulled the rug out from underneath the whole thing. I'm told similar internal focus is now applied to GCP, doesn't mean I wouldn't expect the compny to just one day say "bah, fuck it, we couldn't dominate that, turns out people require something from us beyond engineering, so I'm not playing because I haven't a clue how to do that" again

kevin_thibedeau 10y ago
> Same old Google crap ignoring or failing to understand the customer You are the product, not a customer.
- lallysingh 10y ago
  That post is about Google cloud, where you're a paying customer and you're not shown ads.
  - pzh 10y ago
    Maybe they can offer Google Cloud entirely running on ads, where they inject them at the load balancer. That way they won't have to deal with customer support.
    - deleted 10y ago
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    - pzh 10y ago
      Why are you downvoting? This is how search works and it's not like Comcast hasn't tried the other technique either. https://www.google.com/amp/www.infoworld.com/article/2925839/net-neutrality/code-injection-new-low-isps.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/www.infoworld.com/article/2925839...
  - themihai 10y ago
    The way services are deprecated and prices change makes me feel you are a product, at least if you are early adopter.
  - DashRattlesnake 10y ago
    Just curious, but could Google's culture have evolved so that it tends to treat all their users as products by default, even if they're actually not in a particular case? "You are the product, not a customer" applies to most of what they do, and that has to have had an effect.
    - lallysingh 10y ago
      I'm an ex-googler. It's not that way. Googlers are themselves heavy users of the products. Ads are treated like any other machine learning problem. The belief is that ads should be (essentially) predicted search results.

by _wmd 10y ago

kevin_thibedeau 10y ago

> Same old Google crap ignoring or failing to understand the customer You are the product, not a customer.

lallysingh 10y ago
That post is about Google cloud, where you're a paying customer and you're not shown ads.
- pzh 10y ago
  Maybe they can offer Google Cloud entirely running on ads, where they inject them at the load balancer. That way they won't have to deal with customer support.
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
  - pzh 10y ago
    Why are you downvoting? This is how search works and it's not like Comcast hasn't tried the other technique either. https://www.google.com/amp/www.infoworld.com/article/2925839/net-neutrality/code-injection-new-low-isps.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/www.infoworld.com/article/2925839...
- themihai 10y ago
  The way services are deprecated and prices change makes me feel you are a product, at least if you are early adopter.
- DashRattlesnake 10y ago
  Just curious, but could Google's culture have evolved so that it tends to treat all their users as products by default, even if they're actually not in a particular case? "You are the product, not a customer" applies to most of what they do, and that has to have had an effect.
  - lallysingh 10y ago
    I'm an ex-googler. It's not that way. Googlers are themselves heavy users of the products. Ads are treated like any other machine learning problem. The belief is that ads should be (essentially) predicted search results.