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Thanks for this, osti. As a stoicism fanboy I partly agree, and if it wasn't pouring outside I'd run to my local bookshop to get something from this Nietzsche

Thanks for this, osti. As a stoicism fanboy I partly agree, and if it wasn't pouring outside I'd run to my local bookshop to get something from this Nietzsche fella. Any suggestion?

simonsarris 10y ago
Not osti, but studied phil. On the Genealogy of Morality is a decent read, I can't think of anything better for a first Nietzsche read. If you've ever heard "slave morality", its from here.
osti 10y ago
To be honest I haven't read too many of his books yet, I do plan to take a university course on him this fall though. This passage just resonated with me too much that I have to post it anytime a discussion about Stoicism comes up. There are many Nietzsche classics that you could read, for example I own this copy myself which contains several of his books. https://www.amazon.com/Writings-Nietzsche-Modern-Library-Classics/dp/0679783393/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1488033612&sr=8-2&keywords=nietzsche https://www.amazon.com/Writings-Nietzsche-Modern-Library-Cla...
FabHK 10y ago
I'd think the Stoics make for a much more edifying read than Nietzsche, though :-)
CuriouslyC 10y ago
Beyond Good and Evil is probably his most important work, but Thus Spoke Zarathustra is more readable.
- wry_discontent 10y ago
  Don't start with Thus Spoke Zarathustra. It's all parables told in an old testament style that's hard to comprehend without already knowing what Nietzsche is about. I read The Gay Science first, and I thought it was a good starting point. It covers his big ideas and has the famous "God is dead" aphorism in it.
  - CuriouslyC 10y ago
    I agree that his philosophy isn't super clear from Thus Spoke Zarathustra, but the parable-esque story style is what makes it easy to read. I suppose for clarity we should separate reading and understanding.
stinkytaco 10y ago
Pretty much what others have suggested, but I would weigh in and say The Genealogy of Morality is the work I find myself revisiting the most recently. That along with Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism and Guy Debord's Society of the Spectacle form a fairly interesting exploration into modern society, in my opinion. Not one I always agree with, but certainly one that makes you think. Also, is it ironic that a stoic is waiting until the rain stops to go out and find happiness?
pmoriarty 10y ago
I'd recommend The Gay Science.[1] [1] - https://www.amazon.com/Gay-Science-Prelude-Rhymes-Appendix/dp/0394719859 https://www.amazon.com/Gay-Science-Prelude-Rhymes-Appendix/d...

Thanks for this, osti. As a stoicism fanboy I partly agree, and if it wasn't pouring outside I'd run to my local bookshop to get something from this Nietzsche fella. Any suggestion?

simonsarris 10y ago

Not osti, but studied phil. On the Genealogy of Morality is a decent read, I can't think of anything better for a first Nietzsche read. If you've ever heard "slave morality", its from here.

osti 10y ago

To be honest I haven't read too many of his books yet, I do plan to take a university course on him this fall though. This passage just resonated with me too much that I have to post it anytime a discussion about Stoicism comes up. There are many Nietzsche classics that you could read, for example I own this copy myself which contains several of his books. https://www.amazon.com/Writings-Nietzsche-Modern-Library-Classics/dp/0679783393/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1488033612&sr=8-2&keywords=nietzsche https://www.amazon.com/Writings-Nietzsche-Modern-Library-Cla...

FabHK 10y ago

I'd think the Stoics make for a much more edifying read than Nietzsche, though :-)

CuriouslyC 10y ago

Beyond Good and Evil is probably his most important work, but Thus Spoke Zarathustra is more readable.

wry_discontent 10y ago
Don't start with Thus Spoke Zarathustra. It's all parables told in an old testament style that's hard to comprehend without already knowing what Nietzsche is about. I read The Gay Science first, and I thought it was a good starting point. It covers his big ideas and has the famous "God is dead" aphorism in it.
- CuriouslyC 10y ago
  I agree that his philosophy isn't super clear from Thus Spoke Zarathustra, but the parable-esque story style is what makes it easy to read. I suppose for clarity we should separate reading and understanding.

stinkytaco 10y ago

Pretty much what others have suggested, but I would weigh in and say The Genealogy of Morality is the work I find myself revisiting the most recently. That along with Hannah Arendt's Origins of Totalitarianism and Guy Debord's Society of the Spectacle form a fairly interesting exploration into modern society, in my opinion. Not one I always agree with, but certainly one that makes you think. Also, is it ironic that a stoic is waiting until the rain stops to go out and find happiness?

pmoriarty 10y ago

I'd recommend The Gay Science.[1] [1] - https://www.amazon.com/Gay-Science-Prelude-Rhymes-Appendix/dp/0394719859 https://www.amazon.com/Gay-Science-Prelude-Rhymes-Appendix/d...