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Intel Launches Atom C3000 SoCs: Up to 16 Cores for NAS, Servers, Vehicles
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- ramshanker 10y agoI wish so much to have these small processors in Raspberry Style form factor.
- benologist 10y agohttps://liliputing.com/2017/01/intel-compute-card-tiny-pc-modular-world.html https://liliputing.com/2017/01/intel-compute-card-tiny-pc-mo... None of the openness I think, but similarly-sized.
- atxweirdo 10y agoI am working with the MinnoBoard turbot which is a quad core x86 atom in the same form factor. Pretty neat device.
- wmf 10y agohttps://software.intel.com/en-us/iot/hardware/joule https://software.intel.com/en-us/iot/hardware/joule
- seanp2k2 10y agoIf you're into tiny PCs, COMs, SBCs, etc, I've added http://linuxgizmos.com http://linuxgizmos.com to Feedly list and find that it's a decent way to stay current with that market.
- voltagex_ 10y agoI also like http://www.cnx-software.com/ http://www.cnx-software.com/ for this, but I don't think there are any ARM boards that approach the power of these (or the previous C27xx) chips.
- imaginenore 10y agoThe price is the most impressive. $27 in bulk. $100 buys you 60 cores. I would love to see some Blender render benchmark running on it.
- revelation 10y agoIntel Atoms are utterly useless for that. I'd wager they are useless for most anything that isn't memcpy-bound, so I wonder what makes them put 16 of them into one package.
- imaginenore 10y agoPer core they might be useless, but that's a lot of cores. So per dollar it might actually be good.
- lightedman 10y agoThe intel Atom C2750 keeps par with my AMD Athlon II X4 640. Fun fact: I was running Blender in non-GPU mode on far lower hardware than that almost 15 years ago.
- MichaelGG 10y agoFor memory-bound apps are they sort of useful? For instance, A packet forwarding system that reads a packet, does 3 main-memory lookups, then forwards or drops?
- znpy 10y agoI know it might be a niche, but I would love to see 16-core cpu for "hardcore" home servers.
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- throwawayish 10y agoE5-2xxx.
- wmf 10y agoD-1571.
- ksec 10y agoSounds like a good candidate for Next Gen Time Capsule... if that it ever get updated The Price at $27 means most entry level NAS wont be using it. The starting price for any NAS using it will likely start at $300. I really do hope, Home Server, NAS catches up as a trend instead of us relying everything on the "Cloud".
- znpy 10y ago> I really do hope, Home Server, NAS catches up as a trend instead of us relying everything on the "Cloud". Exactly... If I am spending my hard-earned money on a NAS, it is exactly because i need stuff to be in my lan and/or don't want to use the cloud.
- ksec 10y agoEspecially the pace of Internet connection speed is moving in slow pace compared to the bulk of data we create / store every day.
- hoschicz 10y agoApple cancelled the AirPort program a while ago.
- brianwawok 10y agoGood thing they were a minor vender of nas.
- ksec 10y agoI doubt that rumour is true, likely the team moved on to something else until 802.11ax comes.
- petra 10y agoThe gross margins on NAS are so high? why?
- nwordsam3 10y ago
- stephengillie 10y agoInteresting specs for an IoT device. It looks more powerful than most current home PCs or laptops. How would you feel about hosting a small cloud or Kubernetes cluster on your coffee maker? up to 16 low power x86 cores at up to 2.2GHz fully support Intel’s VT-d hardware virtualization up to 64 GB of single-channel DDR4-1866 or DDR3L-1600 ECC memory PCIe 3.0 x16 controller (with x2, x4 and x8 bifurcation), 16 SATA 3.0 ports four 10 GbE controllers four USB 3.0 ports different TDPs starting at 8.5 W With 4x10GbE controllers, I almost want some sort of government-mandated firewall to be built in.
- Retric 10y agoThese are fairly anemic processors so I suspect you would be disappointed trying to run a desktop OS with one. Let alone go head to head with a modern PC.
- ajross 10y agoThere are atom (the older silvermont core, not goldmont yet I think) laptops in the market already. They run casual desktop stuff just fine.
- stephengillie 10y agoI'm posting from an older Thinkpad with a Core 2 Duo. Comparing this to a C2750, they appear comparable[0]. This system runs Windows 10 fine, and so I don't see why the C2750 (and C3000) would not as well. Granted, an i5 outperforms them both. [0] http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8600-vs-Intel-Atom-C2750 http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8600-vs-Intel-Atom-...
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- karpodiem 10y agorandom question - do those older machines support a UEFI OS install? I'm a bit wary from a security standpoint of going back to MBR.
- mtgx 10y agoQualcomm will have a 48-core competitor later this year, and at 10nm to boot: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10918/qualcomm-demos-48core-centriq-2400-server-soc-in-action-begins-sampling http://www.anandtech.com/show/10918/qualcomm-demos-48core-ce...
- hsivonen 10y agoI bet the Intel chip will get kernel security updates for longer.
- awill 10y agoNot if RHEL8 supports Arm
- fnordfnordfnord 10y agoI bet the Intel chip will appear to beat competitors in benchmarks until the inevitable discovery that Intel gimped the compiler/benchmark or some similar tomfoolery.
- fillskills 10y agoAsking people with hardware background - How hard would it to build a router with NAS, API to talk to Nest etc, smoke alarm, security cam? And what would be the cost of such a device?
- aseipp 10y agoIt's probably going to cost you time, more than hardware, I'd honestly suspect? Any simple Atom-based NAS should really have enough "oomph" for like, a REST HTTP API that you can talk with. I have a 4x core C2000 about a foot from me that would do great. You can piece one together for a cheap few hundred $ (like $300 can probably get you something decent). But you're going to have to program all the shit together, that's consuming. I've been looking at this for my home. Realistically I've just been spending a lot of time so far just modeling my database schemas so I can eventually put APIs on top of it all to talk with. Mostly just make sure you pick some devices you can think you can interface with, have been reverse engineered, or get ready to reverse it yourself I suppose (which might be easier than you think, considering how bad embedded security is)...
- jon-wood 10y agoI did something similar (not a router, but we considered it), and its not that difficult on the hardware side. Our home automation hub was just a Raspberry Pi 3, and had more than enough power. If I were doing this just for my own home I'd probably get a half decent NAS capable of running Linux and then run home-assistant.io on it rather than building everything from scratch. Home Assistant gives you a decent UI, integration with almost any hardware you can think of, programmable automation, and an API to build against if that isn't enough.
- gonzo 10y agoAbout the same as a c2000 nas
- fgonzag 10y agoFor the router you could look into PFSense. I absolutely love it. Use it both professionally (as a firewall/VPN endpoint/access filter/upstream load balancer) and for home setups. On the NAS side there is FreeNAS, however I don't know the two would interact or if you could directly install both packages into one server (I don't see why not though, even though PFSense probably wouldn't recommend it).
- im_down_w_otp 10y agoI'm highly suspicious that these could end up in autonomous cars for anything other than head-unit duty, and you don't need anything as powerful as this for that task. They'd have to have built the thing to a standard strict enough to be a component in an ASIL-D rated system, which there's no evidence has actually happened. Unless they just mean for autonomous test mules and/or captive fleets.
- Tepix 10y agoOnline.net currently uses the 8-core Intel C2750 Atoms for some of their dirt cheap dedicated servers. I hope to see them offer some affordable 16-core Atom servers soon. Minecraft makes use of many cores and my kids are complaining about server lag :-)
- braum 10y agoHow do they make a profit with €8.99mo, even with €20 setup, and make a profit? especially when they include guaranteed unmetered 1Gbit/sec and unmetered traffic?
- cknight 10y agoI think perhaps the "Scaleway" brand name is less about what their users can do with their products, and more about what their business model is. As for their hardware, I believe they have designed all of the physical servers themselves, so they'll contain nothing they don't need. https://www.scaleway.com/features/hardware/ https://www.scaleway.com/features/hardware/
- vxxzy 10y ago1. Buy hardware in bulk 2. Offer incentive for quarterly/yearly subscription 3. Over provision network
- jorams 10y agoMaybe something changed very recently, but as far as I know Minecraft really doesn't make efficient use of multiple cores. Almost all game logic happens on a single thread, so getting fewer, more powerful cores would be a much better way to reduce lag.
- Veratyr 10y agoThere are alternate Minecraft servers, some make better use of cores than others. Perhaps your parent commenter is using one of those.
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- ChuckMcM 10y agoFor some reason I thought they were abandoning the 3000 line. The specs certainly make for a great NAS device, 16 SATA ports is a healthy amount of storage behind dual parity RAID. 64GB of ECC RAM that works, and presumably you can peel off a PCIe x4 lane for boot media in an M.2 slot. I could see replacing my current FreeNAS box with that if it continued to be as quiet.
- penglish1 10y agoHere's hoping they all last longer than 18 months.
- runeks 10y agoI hope they intend to stick one in a NUC. I would love to switch out my old 4-core NUC with a 16-core beast.