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Except it is the responsibility of the third parties to clean up the mess. Cloudflare has no control over their infrastructure. Forget the blame game for a min

Except it is the responsibility of the third parties to clean up the mess. Cloudflare has no control over their infrastructure. Forget the blame game for a minute: there is personally identifiable information of the search engines users sprayed all over their cache. At this point it doesn't matter who put it there, there's a moral responsibility to clean this up, for the greater good.

claudius 10y ago
Yes. And once it is cleaned up, send Cloudflare the bill. And once they go bankrupt, send the executive officers and the shareholders the bill. And once they go bankrupt, make sure they are still held responsible for the damage inflicted and that nobody that incompetent tries to run a major business damaging millions of people’s lives ever again.
- deanclatworthy 10y ago
  I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. If nginx does the same, or apache would you send them a bill also? This is a really really shitty mistake. CF hasn't handled it well. But it could have happened to anyone.
  - claudius 10y ago
    You are of course responsible for the tools you use, so if I use nginx and it has a bug, I won’t send them the bill. A better analogy would be to crash your client’s car into the building of a competitor and then complain if the competitor doesn’t repair that car immediately because it makes you look bad and it is for the greater good for your client to have a working car. This is what happened! Cloudflare took their clients’ cars (their data), crashed them into random buildings all over town (Google, Bing etc.) and now complains that Google and Bing don’t get their act together to repair those cars (remove the private data from the public internet). If Amazon Prime took your car to do your grocery shopping and then crashed it into Walmart, would you really complain that Walmart can’t send the bill to Amazon Prime for the clean-up?
- fauigerzigerk 10y ago
  And once you have done all of that you will have to nationalize all but the smallest businesses because no one in their right mind will invest in anything any more. As a result, tax payers will have to foot the bill for all further mistakes.
anonymfus 10y ago
>Cloudflare has no control over their infrastructure. It has via robots.txt.

claudius 10y ago

Yes. And once it is cleaned up, send Cloudflare the bill. And once they go bankrupt, send the executive officers and the shareholders the bill. And once they go bankrupt, make sure they are still held responsible for the damage inflicted and that nobody that incompetent tries to run a major business damaging millions of people’s lives ever again.

deanclatworthy 10y ago
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. If nginx does the same, or apache would you send them a bill also? This is a really really shitty mistake. CF hasn't handled it well. But it could have happened to anyone.
- claudius 10y ago
  You are of course responsible for the tools you use, so if I use nginx and it has a bug, I won’t send them the bill. A better analogy would be to crash your client’s car into the building of a competitor and then complain if the competitor doesn’t repair that car immediately because it makes you look bad and it is for the greater good for your client to have a working car. This is what happened! Cloudflare took their clients’ cars (their data), crashed them into random buildings all over town (Google, Bing etc.) and now complains that Google and Bing don’t get their act together to repair those cars (remove the private data from the public internet). If Amazon Prime took your car to do your grocery shopping and then crashed it into Walmart, would you really complain that Walmart can’t send the bill to Amazon Prime for the clean-up?
fauigerzigerk 10y ago
And once you have done all of that you will have to nationalize all but the smallest businesses because no one in their right mind will invest in anything any more. As a result, tax payers will have to foot the bill for all further mistakes.

anonymfus 10y ago

>Cloudflare has no control over their infrastructure. It has via robots.txt.