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I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but liberals vote. There's just not enough of them to win Presidential elections decisively by themselves. If you a

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but liberals vote. There's just not enough of them to win Presidential elections decisively by themselves. If you are a liberal, do not fall into the same trap the conservatives did after their loss in 2012. They believed that there was a Missing Conservative Voter Who Stayed Home, who could be won over if the party went further rightward. Ted Cruz bet his whole candidacy on that. Trump is proof that voter either isn’t real or isn't motivated by ideology. I don't know what the Democrat version of Trump is going to be, but there will be space for one if you assume that there's Missing Liberal Voters Who Stayed Home and all you have to do is go further leftward to pick them up.

ChicagoDave 10y ago
Well that's factually incorrect. Democratic turn out was down in 2016.
- thehardsphere 10y ago
  That doesn't mean liberals don't vote. It may mean other things: 1. Obama voters flipped for Trump (this actually happened in PA) 2. Moderate voters may have stayed home or flipped. 3. Some races were not terribly competitive, so people stayed home even though it would not have mattered for them to vote (e.g. the CA Senate race between two Democrats) I mean, if you're really a liberal, would you have not voted? Exceptions perhaps being carved out for people who objected specifically to Hillary Clinton because of her other problems... which would mean Democrats need to pick better people as candidates.
  - ChicagoDave 10y ago
    Oh there's no doubt people stayed home because of both candidates, but it's my theory many democrats stayed home because of Hillary. Agreed. Democrats need to choose young, dashing, charismatic, unimpeachable candidates at every level. This is how dems get excited and actually vote. Conservatives vote based on policy. Liberals vote based on the person. This is their (our) failure.

ChicagoDave 10y ago

Well that's factually incorrect. Democratic turn out was down in 2016.

thehardsphere 10y ago
That doesn't mean liberals don't vote. It may mean other things: 1. Obama voters flipped for Trump (this actually happened in PA) 2. Moderate voters may have stayed home or flipped. 3. Some races were not terribly competitive, so people stayed home even though it would not have mattered for them to vote (e.g. the CA Senate race between two Democrats) I mean, if you're really a liberal, would you have not voted? Exceptions perhaps being carved out for people who objected specifically to Hillary Clinton because of her other problems... which would mean Democrats need to pick better people as candidates.
- ChicagoDave 10y ago
  Oh there's no doubt people stayed home because of both candidates, but it's my theory many democrats stayed home because of Hillary. Agreed. Democrats need to choose young, dashing, charismatic, unimpeachable candidates at every level. This is how dems get excited and actually vote. Conservatives vote based on policy. Liberals vote based on the person. This is their (our) failure.