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Okay, here you go - (1) Your President - "the mexicans are rapists, drug dealers, ... some are good people" "bad hombres/bad dudes" (2) Bannon at CPAC yesterd

Okay, here you go - (1) Your President - "the mexicans are rapists, drug dealers, ... some are good people" "bad hombres/bad dudes" (2) Bannon at CPAC yesterday - "we are a nation with a culture not based on economy or borders" (3) What can I write about targeting Muslims - the muslim ban, Bannon saying that we need a war to unite the country and next war will be the war against Islam in which (he believes) Russia can help. (4) Shouting everyday that the WH is implementing and will implement all the hateful rheotric they campaigned on And you say "you would not put Bannon anywhere near the government" -- Seriously? He is a member of National Security Council and chief strategist to your President. Let us know what will it take for you to accept that the current WH has racists in powerful positions? Should Trump post a tweet proclaiming that he is a racist? Also please have a response better than "but Mexicans/Islam are not a race, that is a country/religion".

downandout 10y ago
(1) He didn't say that all Mexicans were those things. He said some illegal immigrants have committed rape and deal drugs, which is absolutely true. That isn't to say that Americans don't also do those things, but we have to put up with Americans, good or bad. We don't have to put up with people being here illegally doing those things...we have enough problems with actual citizens. (2) I'm not sure how that supports racism (3) I disagree with the travel ban. However, the vast majority of large-scale terrorist attacks - the kind that shake economies and make people scared to travel and shop - have been committed by people from one specific religion who tend to be from very specific parts of the world. It isn't racist to make that factual observation and attempt to at least curb it. (4) Again, I disagree that I have heard any "hateful rhetoric" from Trump. I've heard a somewhat dire worldview, but he isn't entirely wrong about that. There are many things that are out of whack in this world. If you're referring to his stance on immigration, we have immigration laws that previous Presidents refused to enforce. He just wants to partially enforce them. That isn't "hateful rhetoric" - that's just what Presidents are supposed to do. I said that I, personally, wouldn't have chosen Bannon for a cabinet postion. Further, Trump isn't "my president". I predicted that both Hillary and Trump would be disasters. We were screwed when the primaries ended. I just don't like to denigrate people without facts, and all I see in the media and in your response is "I'm pissed that my side lost, so I'm going to take everything that Trump or anyone associated with him does or says and interpret it negatively".
- virtuabhi 10y ago
  I will backoff from continuing this discussion here, as the submitted story is about the death of an innocent person. Thanks.

downandout 10y ago

(1) He didn't say that all Mexicans were those things. He said some illegal immigrants have committed rape and deal drugs, which is absolutely true. That isn't to say that Americans don't also do those things, but we have to put up with Americans, good or bad. We don't have to put up with people being here illegally doing those things...we have enough problems with actual citizens. (2) I'm not sure how that supports racism (3) I disagree with the travel ban. However, the vast majority of large-scale terrorist attacks - the kind that shake economies and make people scared to travel and shop - have been committed by people from one specific religion who tend to be from very specific parts of the world. It isn't racist to make that factual observation and attempt to at least curb it. (4) Again, I disagree that I have heard any "hateful rhetoric" from Trump. I've heard a somewhat dire worldview, but he isn't entirely wrong about that. There are many things that are out of whack in this world. If you're referring to his stance on immigration, we have immigration laws that previous Presidents refused to enforce. He just wants to partially enforce them. That isn't "hateful rhetoric" - that's just what Presidents are supposed to do. I said that I, personally, wouldn't have chosen Bannon for a cabinet postion. Further, Trump isn't "my president". I predicted that both Hillary and Trump would be disasters. We were screwed when the primaries ended. I just don't like to denigrate people without facts, and all I see in the media and in your response is "I'm pissed that my side lost, so I'm going to take everything that Trump or anyone associated with him does or says and interpret it negatively".

virtuabhi 10y ago
I will backoff from continuing this discussion here, as the submitted story is about the death of an innocent person. Thanks.