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FYI: There were 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vio

FYI: There were 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta... And there were 32,719 fatal car crashes http://www.statisticbrain.com/car-crash-fatality-statistics-2/ http://www.statisticbrain.com/car-crash-fatality-statistics-... (ok, not serious source but I guess the real numbers are not too far away)

mikeash 10y ago
Traffic fatalities have ticked up quite a bit in the past couple of years, with about 40,000 deaths in 2016, but the rough magnitude is correct. But I'm specifically talking about hate crimes. The vast majority of those firearm deaths were suicides, and the vast majority of the homicides weren't hate crimes. According to the FBI, there were 18 murders that qualified as hate crimes in 2015 (the most recent year available): https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/topic-pages/incidentsandoffenses_final https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/topic-pages/incidentsand...
- karussell 10y ago
  If you ask me but 11K deaths via gun (homicide!) are way too much
  - mikeash 10y ago
    I totally agree, but that doesn't really affect my point.
    - karussell 10y ago
      Don't get me wrong: I know what you wanted to say but your counter argument was wrong
      - mikeash 10y ago
        I don't understand, what was wrong exactly?
- Eridrus 10y ago
  When I first moved to the US (Capitol Hill, Seattle), reading the local news about someone being shot and killed in street robberies gone wrong a few blocks from my apartment were a bit of a shock having moved from Australia.
ivraatiems 10y ago
Correct, but how many people died in the average fatal car crash? Also, how many of those gun deaths were accidents, suicides, etc.?
- karussell 10y ago
  Read the wikipedia entry ;)
LevGoldstein 10y ago
...the majority of that 33,636 number being suicides: >21,175 suicides

mikeash 10y ago

Traffic fatalities have ticked up quite a bit in the past couple of years, with about 40,000 deaths in 2016, but the rough magnitude is correct. But I'm specifically talking about hate crimes. The vast majority of those firearm deaths were suicides, and the vast majority of the homicides weren't hate crimes. According to the FBI, there were 18 murders that qualified as hate crimes in 2015 (the most recent year available): https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/topic-pages/incidentsandoffenses_final https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/topic-pages/incidentsand...

karussell 10y ago
If you ask me but 11K deaths via gun (homicide!) are way too much
- mikeash 10y ago
  I totally agree, but that doesn't really affect my point.
  - karussell 10y ago
    Don't get me wrong: I know what you wanted to say but your counter argument was wrong
    - mikeash 10y ago
      I don't understand, what was wrong exactly?
Eridrus 10y ago
When I first moved to the US (Capitol Hill, Seattle), reading the local news about someone being shot and killed in street robberies gone wrong a few blocks from my apartment were a bit of a shock having moved from Australia.

ivraatiems 10y ago

Correct, but how many people died in the average fatal car crash? Also, how many of those gun deaths were accidents, suicides, etc.?

karussell 10y ago
Read the wikipedia entry ;)

LevGoldstein 10y ago

...the majority of that 33,636 number being suicides: >21,175 suicides