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Once Japan stops treating its IT workers (programmers, sysadmins, devops, etc.) as 2nd class citizens, maybe they will be able to attract talent. Japan is very
by weka 10y ago
Once Japan stops treating its IT workers (programmers, sysadmins, devops, etc.) as 2nd class citizens, maybe they will be able to attract talent.
Japan is very notorious for having a toxic work/life culture and treating their IT fields as a surplus.
- japathrowaway 10y agoMy favourite "Start of year speech" was when an entire department of developers were told by our boss (Who was one level below the board because IT doesnt get a place on the board) that "We are a cost center so we need to tighten our budgets". The way the company was setup was that any money we made by delivering custom projects was booked to the marketing department who had got the customers to buy from us so it was impossible for anyone IT / development related to be anything but. This is the same company who gave the "Employee of the year" award to the guy who had to work almost 24/7 firefighting on the dumpster-fire of a web-app he had written a few years ago because, well, he is working hard isn't he!
- mratzloff 10y agoEngineering is thought of as a cost center in virtually every company.
- brilliantcode 10y agoYes but it's unwise to treat it like it has economies of scale-software has diseconomies of scale. Treating engineers like cogs in a machine with high turn over is exactly why Japan can only churn out video games. You can't build market fit product by moving slow and treating people like shit.
- hasenj 10y agoI have no idea if what you're saying is true or not but it seems to be a huge claim with hardly any substantiation.
- innocentoldguy 10y agoHere you go: http://www.tokyodev.com/2014/02/13/japanese-developer-salary/ http://www.tokyodev.com/2014/02/13/japanese-developer-salary... ¥8,000,000 is around $71,000 a year in the U.S. Junior developers out of boot camp can make that much here.
- clubm8 10y agoI know a couple Japanese citizens who chose to come to the US and work IT in a large research university for this reason. (They got about the same as they would have in Tokyo, but were living in a low cost area of the US and had a 40 hour workweek... they loved it.)
- brilliantcode 10y agostill way more than $35,000 USD / year which is average salary of junior developers in Vancouver, BC
- Raphmedia 10y agoBut how does it compares with the cost of living? In Canada, I make around 60k USD with 6 years of experience and I'm living a good life.