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It is irrelevant since they refuse to keep statics based on the Ethnicity. Example (fictitious) if total Crime has decreased by 1% but crime by Swedish citize

by cowl 10y ago

It is irrelevant since they refuse to keep statics based on the Ethnicity. Example (fictitious) if total Crime has decreased by 1% but crime by Swedish citizens has decreased by 5% it would actually show a 4% crime increase in non Swedish population. although this fictitious figure may seems small it would be nonetheless an unwarranted risk increase. Not everything that distinguishes based on ethnicity is racism otherwise the vast majority of Medical research would be racist because they target specific populations for specific drugs.

beefield 10y ago
> figure may seems small it would be nonetheless an unwarranted risk increase. That is again another discussion where it may be relevant. I took a quite specific discussion ("Sweden has turned dangerous because of crimes by immigrants") and in that discussion the fact(?) that total crime numbers have not increased is very relevant.
- concinds 10y ago
  > I took a quite specific discussion ("Sweden has turned dangerous because of crimes by immigrants") and in that discussion the fact(?) that total crime numbers have not increased is very relevant. Not necessarily the case because demographics are never homogeneously distributed across territory. If the rape/crime numbers didn't fall uniformly across the whole population, then you could have scenarios where crime fell by 20% in some regions and increased 25% in others, and overall it would be constant. I'm making up the numbers to illustrate. More data would make your point much more convincing.
  - kaveh_h 10y ago
    Lots of factors contribute to change in criminal activity, urbanization, rise of income inequality but also more people in segregated areas will probably not work out very well either.
    - ptaipale 10y ago
      There's no particular rise in Swedish income equality during this millennium. Income inequality after social transfers is quite stable. Segregation of areas is however becoming stronger, as many minorities like to live in their own ethnic enclaves.

by cowl 10y ago

beefield 10y ago

> figure may seems small it would be nonetheless an unwarranted risk increase. That is again another discussion where it may be relevant. I took a quite specific discussion ("Sweden has turned dangerous because of crimes by immigrants") and in that discussion the fact(?) that total crime numbers have not increased is very relevant.

concinds 10y ago
> I took a quite specific discussion ("Sweden has turned dangerous because of crimes by immigrants") and in that discussion the fact(?) that total crime numbers have not increased is very relevant. Not necessarily the case because demographics are never homogeneously distributed across territory. If the rape/crime numbers didn't fall uniformly across the whole population, then you could have scenarios where crime fell by 20% in some regions and increased 25% in others, and overall it would be constant. I'm making up the numbers to illustrate. More data would make your point much more convincing.
- kaveh_h 10y ago
  Lots of factors contribute to change in criminal activity, urbanization, rise of income inequality but also more people in segregated areas will probably not work out very well either.
  - ptaipale 10y ago
    There's no particular rise in Swedish income equality during this millennium. Income inequality after social transfers is quite stable. Segregation of areas is however becoming stronger, as many minorities like to live in their own ethnic enclaves.