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There's a difference between 'people from foreign backgrounds' and refugees. Even in Germany, I wouldn't be surprised if 'people from foreign backgrounds' commi

by otalp 10y ago

There's a difference between 'people from foreign backgrounds' and refugees. Even in Germany, I wouldn't be surprised if 'people from foreign backgrounds' commit crimes at a higher rate when you don't adjust for socio-economic conditions. However the majority of Syrian refugees - about 70%[1][2][3] are women and children. Again, something that is rarely mentioned in certain parts of the internet. [1]- http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/02/keith-ellison/rep-keith-ellison-correct-demographic-overview-syr/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/... [2]-https://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php https://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php [3]-http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/14/donald-trump/donald-trumps-false-claim-refugees-migrants-are-mo/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/...

acqq 10y ago
> However the majority of Syrian refugees - about 70%[1][2][3] are women and children. However the majority of all 2015 refugees aren't Syrian?
- sp332 10y ago
  I was pretty sure they were actually. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911 Edit: I misread this chart... a lot. Syrians are the largest group but not the majority. Never mind!
  - acqq 10y ago
    acqq> the majority of all 2015 refugees aren't Syrian > I was pretty sure they were actually (link to BBC) Your link has 1.32 million asylum claims, around 360 thousand Syrians, then roughly one fourth are Syrians, three fourths aren't, that is, the majority of all aren't.
yAnonymous 10y ago
They do. According to official police statistics, 'people from foreign backgrounds' are responsible for about 30% of violent crimes, which makes them about three times as likely to commit such a crime, and they make up about 30-40% of the prison population.
belorn 10y ago
Of the current population in Sweden, 60% are women and children and 60% are men and children. Children are 17,43%, so if you include them as both the group "women and children" and "men and children", you get a total of almost 120%. 70% is thus a very unclear number unless you can split out the number of children, or if one do not include how big the "men and children" group is.
thaumasiotes 10y ago
What kind of children? Verified how? http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-real-news-tm-from-the-guardian/ http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-real-news-tm-from... If you incentivize people to say they're "children", and don't bother to verify claims of being a "child", you get a lot of "children", but that statistic won't mean much.
tropo 10y ago
They are "children" like this 12-year-old with a receding hair line, Adam's apple, and stubble: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/47ri8u/this_12_year_old_refugee_just_won_a_childrens/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/47ri8u/this_... Claimed ages are accepted without question. To question the age is considered racist. There is an incentive to lie: minors get instant citizenship and lots of help. So really, it isn't children. It's men. Would you want a 30-year-old dude in your daughter's 7th grade class?

by otalp 10y ago

acqq 10y ago

> However the majority of Syrian refugees - about 70%[1][2][3] are women and children. However the majority of all 2015 refugees aren't Syrian?

sp332 10y ago
I was pretty sure they were actually. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911 Edit: I misread this chart... a lot. Syrians are the largest group but not the majority. Never mind!
- acqq 10y ago
  acqq> the majority of all 2015 refugees aren't Syrian > I was pretty sure they were actually (link to BBC) Your link has 1.32 million asylum claims, around 360 thousand Syrians, then roughly one fourth are Syrians, three fourths aren't, that is, the majority of all aren't.

yAnonymous 10y ago

They do. According to official police statistics, 'people from foreign backgrounds' are responsible for about 30% of violent crimes, which makes them about three times as likely to commit such a crime, and they make up about 30-40% of the prison population.

belorn 10y ago

Of the current population in Sweden, 60% are women and children and 60% are men and children. Children are 17,43%, so if you include them as both the group "women and children" and "men and children", you get a total of almost 120%. 70% is thus a very unclear number unless you can split out the number of children, or if one do not include how big the "men and children" group is.

thaumasiotes 10y ago

What kind of children? Verified how? http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-real-news-tm-from-the-guardian/ http://www.unz.com/isteve/great-moments-in-real-news-tm-from... If you incentivize people to say they're "children", and don't bother to verify claims of being a "child", you get a lot of "children", but that statistic won't mean much.

tropo 10y ago

They are "children" like this 12-year-old with a receding hair line, Adam's apple, and stubble: https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/47ri8u/this_12_year_old_refugee_just_won_a_childrens/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/47ri8u/this_... Claimed ages are accepted without question. To question the age is considered racist. There is an incentive to lie: minors get instant citizenship and lots of help. So really, it isn't children. It's men. Would you want a 30-year-old dude in your daughter's 7th grade class?