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> Plan: shoot some people in the group you want to leave, striking fear into the rest. A person who shoots two people and then immediately goes to another bar
by Klockan 10y ago
> Plan: shoot some people in the group you want to leave, striking fear into the rest.
A person who shoots two people and then immediately goes to another bar to brag about it probably lacks the mental faculties to come up with such an elaborate plan.
- nkrisc 10y agoWhat exactly is elaborate about a plan to shoot people?
- Klockan 10y agoIt isn't, but people accuse him of shooting people to scare away others which requires more thought. The murder is obviously premeditated, I am not arguing about that, I just argue that he probably didn't do it for any higher purpose than wanting them dead.
- mikeash 10y agoHe shouted "Get out of my country!" I'm pretty confident that was not directed solely at the person he then shot.
- Klockan 10y agoSo you argue that it wouldn't have been terrorism if he instead said "Death to all naggers!" because then it wouldn't serve a higher political purpose? To me those two statements are basically interchangeable in this scenario.
- mikeash 10y ago"Death to..." and "Get out of my country" don't seem very interchangeable to me.
- Klockan 10y agoOk, better example: Imagine that he yelled "Get out of my lawn!", would that be obvious terrorism?
- mikeash 10y agoOnly if they were part of a political movement whose platform included keeping people who look like that off lawns.
- nkrisc 10y agoAre you saying you think he only wanted specifically those two men out of "his" country? I suppose it's possible but I wouldn't bet money on it.
- yardie 10y agoYou're right. He should have bragged about it on YouTube instead. Everyone knows that's where the real terrorists do their bragging.
- mcguire 10y agoElaborate plans are not necessary. All you need to do is radicalize the right people, and plans (and actions) will take care of themselves.