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Most of the crimes in Sweden is done by immigrants. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. It's creepy to see this kind of behaviour condoned and labeled as noth

Most of the crimes in Sweden is done by immigrants. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. It's creepy to see this kind of behaviour condoned and labeled as nothing. Sweden: Rape Capital of the West https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape Everything is factual in that statement but seems to burst some peoples bubble.

Entalpi 10y ago
This my friends is propaganda.
- oligopoly 10y ago
  Excuse me? Downplaying migrant rape and crimes is propaganda.
cromulent 10y ago
The original chart used in the report you reference comes with cautions in interpreting Sweden's position, which do not seem to have been heeded by the authors of the report. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Sweden
matthewmacleod 10y ago
You are deliberately lying and citing well-known unreliable sources. Why are you doing this? Are you trying to push some pre-concieved agenda? I genuinely don't understand.
- oligopoly 10y ago
  UN rape statistics is unreliable source? It's creepy how lot of people downplay rape in this thread.
  - cromulent 10y ago
    The source itself says that it is is unreliable :) "Please note that when using the figures, any cross-national comparisons should be conducted with caution because of the differences that exist between the legal definitions of offences in countries, or the different methods of offence counting and recording." http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/CTS2013_SexualViolence.xls http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/...
  - matthewmacleod 10y ago
    There, you're doing it again! You are purposefully seeking to distort the truth, and I don't really understand why you are doing so. Nobody is seeking to 'downplay rape' – an obvious dog-whistle accusation – and instead I reckon people generally want to understand if there is a problem, and if there is, then why there is a problem. The problems with what you are doing are: 1. You are citing a right-wing think tank. I know that all sources have bias, but this is not even pretending to be an objective one. It's a poor source for data. 2. That think tank bases it's analysis on UN data which explicitly points out that it is not suitable for direct international comparison. I do not personally know if an increase in immigration in Sweden's resulted in more sexual violence, but I am absolutely certain that we will not figure that out using the sort of facile "why do you love rapists so much" shit that you are spewing.
joshuahedlund 10y ago
Sweden's definition of rape and the way they count them is much more inclusive than other countries, so it is not valid to compare statistics across countries. See http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786 > if a person comes to the police and reports being raped by a partner or husband every day for the past year, the police will record each of these events. In many other countries these incidents would be recorded just once: one victim, one type of crime and one record.

Entalpi 10y ago

This my friends is propaganda.

oligopoly 10y ago
Excuse me? Downplaying migrant rape and crimes is propaganda.

cromulent 10y ago

The original chart used in the report you reference comes with cautions in interpreting Sweden's position, which do not seem to have been heeded by the authors of the report. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Sweden

matthewmacleod 10y ago

You are deliberately lying and citing well-known unreliable sources. Why are you doing this? Are you trying to push some pre-concieved agenda? I genuinely don't understand.

oligopoly 10y ago
UN rape statistics is unreliable source? It's creepy how lot of people downplay rape in this thread.
- cromulent 10y ago
  The source itself says that it is is unreliable :) "Please note that when using the figures, any cross-national comparisons should be conducted with caution because of the differences that exist between the legal definitions of offences in countries, or the different methods of offence counting and recording." http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/CTS2013_SexualViolence.xls http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/...
- matthewmacleod 10y ago
  There, you're doing it again! You are purposefully seeking to distort the truth, and I don't really understand why you are doing so. Nobody is seeking to 'downplay rape' – an obvious dog-whistle accusation – and instead I reckon people generally want to understand if there is a problem, and if there is, then why there is a problem. The problems with what you are doing are: 1. You are citing a right-wing think tank. I know that all sources have bias, but this is not even pretending to be an objective one. It's a poor source for data. 2. That think tank bases it's analysis on UN data which explicitly points out that it is not suitable for direct international comparison. I do not personally know if an increase in immigration in Sweden's resulted in more sexual violence, but I am absolutely certain that we will not figure that out using the sort of facile "why do you love rapists so much" shit that you are spewing.

joshuahedlund 10y ago

Sweden's definition of rape and the way they count them is much more inclusive than other countries, so it is not valid to compare statistics across countries. See http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786 > if a person comes to the police and reports being raped by a partner or husband every day for the past year, the police will record each of these events. In many other countries these incidents would be recorded just once: one victim, one type of crime and one record.