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VICE made a pretty good material about no-go zones in Sweden and anti-racist groups that demolish your car, house, get you fired from job for liking wrong thing

• literallycancer 10y ago
  How about linking the material? >and anti-racist groups that demolish your car, house, get you fired from job for liking wrong thing on Facebook. Yea. It's your prerogative to hold controversial opinions. But you certainly don't have any right to be publicly racist and expect no retaliation. To clarify, I meant legal retaliation using legal means like firing the racist person from their job. Burning down their car is of course, illegal.
  • akerro 10y ago
    > How about linking the material? First result from 4sec googling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1MYMVfyHi0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1MYMVfyHi0 >But you certainly don't have any right to be publicly racist and expect no retaliation. Seriously, demolishing someone's car/house is not worth mentioning in your comment, but have no right to be publicly racist? I also didn't say it was racist, where did you take this from? Also, what's your address because I disagree and would like to put an axe on your front door.
    • literallycancer 10y ago
      I didn't mean to say that it's ok to burn down someone's car or a house. But retaliation within legal means is to be expected. Not sure about Sweden, but in my country being publicly racist[1] would be viewed as a crime[2]. I don't think anyone expects employers to continue employing active criminals. >I also didn't say it was racist, where did you take this from? >anti-racist groups ... get you fired from job for liking wrong thing on Facebook Presumably, anti-racist group would take offense to people liking racist things on Facebook (otherwise, why describe them as anti-racist as opposed to anti-'whatever it is you like on Facebook that they have issues with')? 1 - defined as: "Who founds, supports or propagates a movement that provably aims to suppress freedoms and rights of man, or preaches racial, ethnic, national, religious or class hatred, or hatred against another group of people, will be punished by 1 to 5 years of prison." 2 - in reality you'd probably be sued for it only if you pissed off someone with the money/time to spend on the legal procedures
      • tropo 10y ago
        That kind of law leads to self-censorship of things that wouldn't even be illegal, simply because nobody will risk stepping near the line. A good deal of factual and political speech gets wiped out. If your country is typical of the sort of Western nation with that kind of law, then "1 to 5 years of prison" is more than you'd get for rape. That's quite some fear of words. Here in the USA, we mostly laugh at the actual hate groups. Your country has made them a forbidden fruit, all the more enticing. You also can't know people's true feelings... you might discover them abruptly someday, in a very bad way.
  • esteth 10y ago
    I think you do have a right to hold a controversial opinion in public and not have your belongings destroyed because of it. "That person said something I disagree with" doesn't imply that you have the right to demolish their property and their job.
  • tomp 10y ago
    When retaliation happens because you're pointing out facts (or assumed facts) without any ill intent, that becomes a problem.