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If you don't mind saying, what country are you from?

erggr4tyh4y 10y ago
Vallavarayan is a Tamil name.
oblio 10y ago
Well, he's probably from a country with fewer guns per capita than the US. Which means.. all of them. Why would a developed country need 112 guns per 100 residents is beyond me. The US: * is less dangerous than Yemen (where there's a war going on right now) * most likely has smaller hunting areas than Russia * has a standing army, unlike Switzerland yet it still has more guns per capita than any of them!
- maxerickson 10y ago
  Nearly everywhere in the US that isn't city is open to hunting. A big exception is the National Park System, but only a few of those are very large. Of course Russia is the largest country by land area so what you say is likely to be true, but still, pretty much everyone in the US is fairly close to viable hunting grounds. Of course not everyone hunts, but then owning 2 or 3 firearms for different types of hunting isn't really outlandish.
  - oblio 10y ago
    > Of course not everyone hunts, but then owning 2 or 3 firearms for different types of hunting isn't really outlandish. The US literally has more than 1 gun per person. The US population includes: * children * senior citizens * disabled citizens * urban residents who most likely see hunting grounds once per decade * the largest prison population in the world * etc. I don't buy your argument.
    - maxerickson 10y ago
      What argument is it you think I am making? I thought I was saying that hunting can make a large contribution to gun ownership and not trying real hard to quantify it.
    - specialp 10y ago
      I bought a shotgun to shoot clay, and then I was given another shotgun that was 70 years old from someone who was cleaning out a relative's house that just died. I now own 2 guns bringing the guns per capita in my household to 1. Guns unlike cars which also approach 1 per capita never really disappear. Not saying this is a good thing. Over the history of our gun owning country a lot have been made. Surely there are nuts out there that buy an arsenal but many guns are handed down over the years and kept. People also collect historical weapons. It is hard to understand as suburban/city dwellers like myself, but in most other places in the country it is perfectly fine to be given granddad's guns and to keep them around adding to the statistics.
      - karthik248 10y ago
        Just so you know, I am from the same City and University as the victim in this story. In our country(most other countries too) we, the common citizens, which includes most of the population, don't own firearms, use firearms, even as show-pieces or even see them everyday. It is hard for us to understand why they even allow you to own them.
        battlebot 10y ago
        Because unlike your shitty country, in ours, free men have the right to bear arms and to defend themselves and righteously protect their families, their property, and their rights. That's fucking why.
        palerdot 10y ago
        You might want to clarify that you mean same city and university from Hyderabad, India. When I was reading your comment, it looked like you were speaking about Kansas.
        X86BSD 10y ago
        Perhaps if you did the British would not have robbed your country blind. Unlike almost every? Country on this planet our constitution was written to protect the people from the government. Giving your citizens the RIGHT to keep and use arms is a vital part of ensuring freedom and that tyranny by government or invading armies is terminated at the will of the people. Would the British have invaded India had everyone been armed like the US citizenry is? I seriously doubt it. The army would have been liquidated by the people in short order. It would be suicide to invade a country of that many armed people. This is why we have a right to own them. Because armies invade and governments become tyrannies.
vallavaraiyan 10y ago
India, down south, from Madras
- rhapsodic 10y ago
  Edit: Information about Madras Oregon deleted.
  - enraged_camel 10y ago
    The difference is that he isn't very likely to get killed in Madras because of his skin color.
  - erggr4tyh4y 10y ago
    You have linked to Madras, OR, USA. They are from Madras, Tamil Nadu, India.
    - nottorp 10y ago
      Rofl. Just like the shooter picked on the indians thinking they're arabs. If you're trying to prove that americans have no idea there is a world outside their borders, you're succeeding wonderfully.
      - rhapsodic 10y ago
        >Rofl. Just like the shooter picked on the indians thinking they're arabs. If you're trying to prove that americans have no idea there is a world outside their borders, you're succeeding wonderfully. Actually, it was the existence of Madras, Oregon that I was unaware of. That's why I assumed the page was about Madras, India.
        notalaser 10y ago
        To be fair, the map you linked to was entirely unhelpful, seeing how it didn't display big bald eagles and a star-spangled banner next to the Ochoco National Forest, the Warm Springs Reservations and Camp Sherman.

Vallavarayan is a Tamil name.

oblio 10y ago

Well, he's probably from a country with fewer guns per capita than the US. Which means.. all of them. Why would a developed country need 112 guns per 100 residents is beyond me. The US: * is less dangerous than Yemen (where there's a war going on right now) * most likely has smaller hunting areas than Russia * has a standing army, unlike Switzerland yet it still has more guns per capita than any of them!

maxerickson 10y ago
Nearly everywhere in the US that isn't city is open to hunting. A big exception is the National Park System, but only a few of those are very large. Of course Russia is the largest country by land area so what you say is likely to be true, but still, pretty much everyone in the US is fairly close to viable hunting grounds. Of course not everyone hunts, but then owning 2 or 3 firearms for different types of hunting isn't really outlandish.
- oblio 10y ago
  > Of course not everyone hunts, but then owning 2 or 3 firearms for different types of hunting isn't really outlandish. The US literally has more than 1 gun per person. The US population includes: * children * senior citizens * disabled citizens * urban residents who most likely see hunting grounds once per decade * the largest prison population in the world * etc. I don't buy your argument.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    What argument is it you think I am making? I thought I was saying that hunting can make a large contribution to gun ownership and not trying real hard to quantify it.
  - specialp 10y ago
    I bought a shotgun to shoot clay, and then I was given another shotgun that was 70 years old from someone who was cleaning out a relative's house that just died. I now own 2 guns bringing the guns per capita in my household to 1. Guns unlike cars which also approach 1 per capita never really disappear. Not saying this is a good thing. Over the history of our gun owning country a lot have been made. Surely there are nuts out there that buy an arsenal but many guns are handed down over the years and kept. People also collect historical weapons. It is hard to understand as suburban/city dwellers like myself, but in most other places in the country it is perfectly fine to be given granddad's guns and to keep them around adding to the statistics.
    - karthik248 10y ago
      Just so you know, I am from the same City and University as the victim in this story. In our country(most other countries too) we, the common citizens, which includes most of the population, don't own firearms, use firearms, even as show-pieces or even see them everyday. It is hard for us to understand why they even allow you to own them.
      - battlebot 10y ago
        Because unlike your shitty country, in ours, free men have the right to bear arms and to defend themselves and righteously protect their families, their property, and their rights. That's fucking why.
      - palerdot 10y ago
        You might want to clarify that you mean same city and university from Hyderabad, India. When I was reading your comment, it looked like you were speaking about Kansas.
      - X86BSD 10y ago
        Perhaps if you did the British would not have robbed your country blind. Unlike almost every? Country on this planet our constitution was written to protect the people from the government. Giving your citizens the RIGHT to keep and use arms is a vital part of ensuring freedom and that tyranny by government or invading armies is terminated at the will of the people. Would the British have invaded India had everyone been armed like the US citizenry is? I seriously doubt it. The army would have been liquidated by the people in short order. It would be suicide to invade a country of that many armed people. This is why we have a right to own them. Because armies invade and governments become tyrannies.

vallavaraiyan 10y ago

India, down south, from Madras

rhapsodic 10y ago
Edit: Information about Madras Oregon deleted.
- enraged_camel 10y ago
  The difference is that he isn't very likely to get killed in Madras because of his skin color.
- erggr4tyh4y 10y ago
  You have linked to Madras, OR, USA. They are from Madras, Tamil Nadu, India.
  - nottorp 10y ago
    Rofl. Just like the shooter picked on the indians thinking they're arabs. If you're trying to prove that americans have no idea there is a world outside their borders, you're succeeding wonderfully.
    - rhapsodic 10y ago
      >Rofl. Just like the shooter picked on the indians thinking they're arabs. If you're trying to prove that americans have no idea there is a world outside their borders, you're succeeding wonderfully. Actually, it was the existence of Madras, Oregon that I was unaware of. That's why I assumed the page was about Madras, India.
      - notalaser 10y ago
        To be fair, the map you linked to was entirely unhelpful, seeing how it didn't display big bald eagles and a star-spangled banner next to the Ochoco National Forest, the Warm Springs Reservations and Camp Sherman.