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Javascript Boilerplate Fatigue

underwater 10y ago
This appears to be the opposite of boilerplate. It's a tool that replaces verbose, brittle, code with a single dependency.
- tobltobs 10y ago
  Boilerplate framework?
  - zzalpha 10y ago
    Personally, I'm looking forward to five more of these projects springing up, after which someone can great a meta boilerplate framework for abstracting all the boilerplate frameworks. It can have its own meta preset format that translates into the six other preset formats so you, the lucky developer, can pick your open boilerplate generator and rely on this boilerplate generator generator to hide everything behind a common, leaky interface! We'll call it Hadron, since Hadron decay can result in the production of Neutrinos...
    - billforsternz 10y ago
      Well played. It's the abstract factory, factory ... factory paradigm all over again.
philmander 10y ago
After just reading the title, I assumed the same thing, but actually this is exactly what web development needs. create-react-app is a great example of a project that abstracts away all the complexities of a JavaScript build process and dev environment, but customization inevitably requires you to 'eject' and reintroduce that complexity to your project. This tool goes one step further and supports customization without this eject step. This is finally where web builds need to be to provide a simple foundation for modern web development so devs can focus more on making apps and less on tooling. I look forward to trying it out.
- omouse 10y ago
  What complexities of build processes?! Building Javascript files with modules and deps is a solved problem. We've built all sorts of other file types and compiled them and linked them before with tools like Make, SCons and other tools. It's ridiculous to think that JavaScript is a unique language that needs its own build tools. It does not. We went down the wrong path years ago when we decided that whenever we use a language we also need to use tools written in that language. Grunt, gulp, webpack and the rest should go away.
  - philmander 10y ago
    I hear you. Node.js made my Ant tasks for running jshint and qunit totally redundant :(
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This appears to be the opposite of boilerplate. It's a tool that replaces verbose, brittle, code with a single dependency.

tobltobs 10y ago
Boilerplate framework?
- zzalpha 10y ago
  Personally, I'm looking forward to five more of these projects springing up, after which someone can great a meta boilerplate framework for abstracting all the boilerplate frameworks. It can have its own meta preset format that translates into the six other preset formats so you, the lucky developer, can pick your open boilerplate generator and rely on this boilerplate generator generator to hide everything behind a common, leaky interface! We'll call it Hadron, since Hadron decay can result in the production of Neutrinos...
  - billforsternz 10y ago
    Well played. It's the abstract factory, factory ... factory paradigm all over again.

philmander 10y ago

After just reading the title, I assumed the same thing, but actually this is exactly what web development needs. create-react-app is a great example of a project that abstracts away all the complexities of a JavaScript build process and dev environment, but customization inevitably requires you to 'eject' and reintroduce that complexity to your project. This tool goes one step further and supports customization without this eject step. This is finally where web builds need to be to provide a simple foundation for modern web development so devs can focus more on making apps and less on tooling. I look forward to trying it out.

omouse 10y ago
What complexities of build processes?! Building Javascript files with modules and deps is a solved problem. We've built all sorts of other file types and compiled them and linked them before with tools like Make, SCons and other tools. It's ridiculous to think that JavaScript is a unique language that needs its own build tools. It does not. We went down the wrong path years ago when we decided that whenever we use a language we also need to use tools written in that language. Grunt, gulp, webpack and the rest should go away.
- philmander 10y ago
  I hear you. Node.js made my Ant tasks for running jshint and qunit totally redundant :(

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