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i dunno...part of why i use Linux or MacOS is the knowledge that under the hood they're well designed. With Windows, no matter how good it looks, I feel like it

i dunno...part of why i use Linux or MacOS is the knowledge that under the hood they're well designed. With Windows, no matter how good it looks, I feel like it's an ugly system, not to mention insecure.

raesene6 10y ago
err modern windows has many good security measures and in many cases Microsoft are ahead of the curve in adopting new security techniques. For me "insecure windows" is an old trope and not particuarly accurate any more.
- dawnerd 10y ago
  The most insecure part of the operating system is the user itself. You can only do so much to stop people from doing dumb things.
pdpi 10y ago
How so? It's definitely an unfamiliar system, for me, and there might or might not be vulnerabilities in the current implementation, but I have no reason to believe that the windows NT model is intrinsically less secure than the unix model.
monsieurbanana 10y ago
I just want to randomly poke in the discussion to say that out of the three big OS, MacOS user interface is the most vomit-inducing. I know this feeling isn't shared by most. Now that windows has nice workspaces and an already usable UNIX environnement (Windows Subsystem still has things to iron out, but it's very nice for a beta), my personal ranking became: Linux > Windows > MacOS I see nothing that MacOS offers that Windows doesn't, whereas Windows has potential for much better hardware specs, games, bigger user base. The only thing left for Apple is their 16:10 screen and their per-monitor scaling.
- Insanity 10y ago
  Same ranking for me here. At home I use Linux and would never go back to the alternatives but at workI had to use Mac and Windows. If Mac did not have a good terminal (iterm2 is what I used) then it would be no competition at all. I do miss a good terminal in windows but assume the Linux subsystem will fill that hole
  - dawnerd 10y ago
    It's not the best terminal, but give hyper a shot. It seems to work fairly well plus it's cross platform so you can take all your configs. Downside is it's an electron app.
    - Insanity 10y ago
      I'll have to check that out, thank you!
sz4kerto 10y ago
The security infrastructure behind the Windows desktop is a decade ahead of the Linux desktop. Yes, kernels are okay in both cases, but e.g. Xorg is a security disaster.
- AsyncAwait 10y ago
  That's why we have Wayland, (and yes you can use it today, just install Fedora 25 or Arch with GNOME).
72deluxe 10y ago
How can it be ugly if it looks good?
pjmlp 10y ago
Reading books like "Windows Internals" would reveal to you the actual way how things are designed.

raesene6 10y ago

err modern windows has many good security measures and in many cases Microsoft are ahead of the curve in adopting new security techniques. For me "insecure windows" is an old trope and not particuarly accurate any more.

dawnerd 10y ago
The most insecure part of the operating system is the user itself. You can only do so much to stop people from doing dumb things.

pdpi 10y ago

How so? It's definitely an unfamiliar system, for me, and there might or might not be vulnerabilities in the current implementation, but I have no reason to believe that the windows NT model is intrinsically less secure than the unix model.

monsieurbanana 10y ago

I just want to randomly poke in the discussion to say that out of the three big OS, MacOS user interface is the most vomit-inducing. I know this feeling isn't shared by most. Now that windows has nice workspaces and an already usable UNIX environnement (Windows Subsystem still has things to iron out, but it's very nice for a beta), my personal ranking became: Linux > Windows > MacOS I see nothing that MacOS offers that Windows doesn't, whereas Windows has potential for much better hardware specs, games, bigger user base. The only thing left for Apple is their 16:10 screen and their per-monitor scaling.

Insanity 10y ago
Same ranking for me here. At home I use Linux and would never go back to the alternatives but at workI had to use Mac and Windows. If Mac did not have a good terminal (iterm2 is what I used) then it would be no competition at all. I do miss a good terminal in windows but assume the Linux subsystem will fill that hole
- dawnerd 10y ago
  It's not the best terminal, but give hyper a shot. It seems to work fairly well plus it's cross platform so you can take all your configs. Downside is it's an electron app.
  - Insanity 10y ago
    I'll have to check that out, thank you!

sz4kerto 10y ago

The security infrastructure behind the Windows desktop is a decade ahead of the Linux desktop. Yes, kernels are okay in both cases, but e.g. Xorg is a security disaster.

AsyncAwait 10y ago
That's why we have Wayland, (and yes you can use it today, just install Fedora 25 or Arch with GNOME).

72deluxe 10y ago

How can it be ugly if it looks good?

pjmlp 10y ago

Reading books like "Windows Internals" would reveal to you the actual way how things are designed.