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The Mac Pro design itself is great - Xeon CPU, dual GPUs, infinite storage expandability via Thunderbolt 2.. the problem is that they never upgraded it. The GP

The Mac Pro design itself is great - Xeon CPU, dual GPUs, infinite storage expandability via Thunderbolt 2.. the problem is that they never upgraded it. The GPU is 4 years old now, for example.

jwatte 10y ago
A new version every year, and space for multiple internal SSDs, would have made it desirable. However, Apple is now milking the old glory and failing to build tomorrow's glory. It's the classic beam counter mistake. It's probably time to short Apple soon.
bluejekyll 10y ago
Yeah. It was awesome when it came out...
kalleboo 10y ago
Right, you either choose an integrated design, and commit to expending the resources to keeping it upgraded right there on the bleeding edge, or you build an expandable machine and let your customers do that work for you. But even before the integrated Mac Pro, they regularly let it go two years between updates of the pro model. They must have known when designing the machine that they wouldn't be keeping it up-to-date and that it would quickly become obsolete? Apple also has the issue of trying to align their releases to their PR schedules. When a component (like a CPU generation) slips, it really messes with their update cycles (see: MacBooks). This doesn't matter so much to consumer devices, but pros are more sensitive to this, and letting pros upgrade their machines mitigates this to some extent.
Fomite 10y ago
Even when it was new, the GPU was a problem for me. Now it's both a problem and old, which is not a good combination.
nottorp 10y ago
Except the GPUs were crap even on release. And there are like 3 applications that can use both? So unless you were in that niche, you'd end up paying a ton of money for two dubious GPUs of which you could only use one.
Foivos 10y ago
If you want a pc with the design of Mac Pro (actually better in my opinion) look at the samsung Art pc Pulse. It is the same concept, but way smaller (about half the size), modern specs, I think you can upgrade at lest the ram (not sure about ssd though) and for the specs the price is OK. Actually, photos do not do much justice to it. In real life it is way more impressive. The upper part looks like it floats on a colorful aura. The design is an obvious copy of Mac Pro, but they made it way better.

The Mac Pro design itself is great - Xeon CPU, dual GPUs, infinite storage expandability via Thunderbolt 2.. the problem is that they never upgraded it. The GPU is 4 years old now, for example.

jwatte 10y ago

A new version every year, and space for multiple internal SSDs, would have made it desirable. However, Apple is now milking the old glory and failing to build tomorrow's glory. It's the classic beam counter mistake. It's probably time to short Apple soon.

bluejekyll 10y ago

Yeah. It was awesome when it came out...

kalleboo 10y ago

Right, you either choose an integrated design, and commit to expending the resources to keeping it upgraded right there on the bleeding edge, or you build an expandable machine and let your customers do that work for you. But even before the integrated Mac Pro, they regularly let it go two years between updates of the pro model. They must have known when designing the machine that they wouldn't be keeping it up-to-date and that it would quickly become obsolete? Apple also has the issue of trying to align their releases to their PR schedules. When a component (like a CPU generation) slips, it really messes with their update cycles (see: MacBooks). This doesn't matter so much to consumer devices, but pros are more sensitive to this, and letting pros upgrade their machines mitigates this to some extent.

Fomite 10y ago

Even when it was new, the GPU was a problem for me. Now it's both a problem and old, which is not a good combination.

nottorp 10y ago

Except the GPUs were crap even on release. And there are like 3 applications that can use both? So unless you were in that niche, you'd end up paying a ton of money for two dubious GPUs of which you could only use one.

Foivos 10y ago

If you want a pc with the design of Mac Pro (actually better in my opinion) look at the samsung Art pc Pulse. It is the same concept, but way smaller (about half the size), modern specs, I think you can upgrade at lest the ram (not sure about ssd though) and for the specs the price is OK. Actually, photos do not do much justice to it. In real life it is way more impressive. The upper part looks like it floats on a colorful aura. The design is an obvious copy of Mac Pro, but they made it way better.