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Would love to know the legal details behind this scenario and what rights people actually have to be stopped by various types of law enforcement, in such a simp

Would love to know the legal details behind this scenario and what rights people actually have to be stopped by various types of law enforcement, in such a simple case as just leaving a flight you were just legally on.

morgante 10y ago
Constitutionally, they don't have a leg to stand on. The police cannot demand your ID without probable cause. I wonder what would have happened if someone refused.
- leereeves 10y ago
  This really isn't unusual. I was once stopped and asked for my ID (and other questions) because someone had committed a robbery in the area. People are routinely stopped at checkpoints when crossing state lines, when police are searching for someone, and at "dragnets" for DUI and immigration. And yet, suddenly, the left-wing media cares? Could that have anything to do with their candidate (Hillary) having lost the election? They're going to exploit anything they can to make Trump look bad, just as the right-wing did when Obama was in office.
  - morgante 10y ago
    I agree it's not unusual and I doubt this has anything to do with Trump. That doesn't change the fact that it's unconstitutional to require ID. "Dragnets" are not a good thing. There's a reason people often use them as a synonym for invasive and authoritarian tactics.
    - leereeves 10y ago
      I'm just commenting on the media's sudden interest, which I think has everything to do with their opposition to Trump. I (and many people on both sides) have been opposed to dragnets (including DUI and immigration dragnets) for a long time. DAE remember when right wingers were mocked for those videos in which they simply responded "Am I being detained?"
  - AckSyn 10y ago
    "someone committed a robbery in the area" "someone fitting your description" "someone reported a suspicious person" all lies and garbage. they aren't searching for someone specific, and if they were they wouldn't need to ask you for your ID because they'd already know who they were looking for. else they'd already be detaining you.
    - leereeves 10y ago
      Then why did they stop me when I was out walking? For the thrill of calmly and politely asking who I was and what I was doing in the area?
      - AckSyn 10y ago
        Who knows, but they routinely overstep their boundaries simply because they can and they're used to doing it.

morgante 10y ago

Constitutionally, they don't have a leg to stand on. The police cannot demand your ID without probable cause. I wonder what would have happened if someone refused.

leereeves 10y ago
This really isn't unusual. I was once stopped and asked for my ID (and other questions) because someone had committed a robbery in the area. People are routinely stopped at checkpoints when crossing state lines, when police are searching for someone, and at "dragnets" for DUI and immigration. And yet, suddenly, the left-wing media cares? Could that have anything to do with their candidate (Hillary) having lost the election? They're going to exploit anything they can to make Trump look bad, just as the right-wing did when Obama was in office.
- morgante 10y ago
  I agree it's not unusual and I doubt this has anything to do with Trump. That doesn't change the fact that it's unconstitutional to require ID. "Dragnets" are not a good thing. There's a reason people often use them as a synonym for invasive and authoritarian tactics.
  - leereeves 10y ago
    I'm just commenting on the media's sudden interest, which I think has everything to do with their opposition to Trump. I (and many people on both sides) have been opposed to dragnets (including DUI and immigration dragnets) for a long time. DAE remember when right wingers were mocked for those videos in which they simply responded "Am I being detained?"
- AckSyn 10y ago
  "someone committed a robbery in the area" "someone fitting your description" "someone reported a suspicious person" all lies and garbage. they aren't searching for someone specific, and if they were they wouldn't need to ask you for your ID because they'd already know who they were looking for. else they'd already be detaining you.
  - leereeves 10y ago
    Then why did they stop me when I was out walking? For the thrill of calmly and politely asking who I was and what I was doing in the area?
    - AckSyn 10y ago
      Who knows, but they routinely overstep their boundaries simply because they can and they're used to doing it.