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As a male in my early twenties, working as a developer I've come to realize that it's just better to not even try to engage in small talk and/or non-work relate

by ffef 10y ago

As a male in my early twenties, working as a developer I've come to realize that it's just better to not even try to engage in small talk and/or non-work related conversations with female co-workers. I keep it dry and basic. Just last week I had a buddy who was on the phone with his brother and blurted "Bro, she was amazing, then I left her house haha" he was fired the next day because a co-worker overheard his conversation and felt uncomfortable.

fullshark 10y ago
How is this relevant? Are you implying that the original blogpost indicated an overreaction on Susan Fowler's part?
aerovistae 10y ago
I don't even know what to say to this. If your interactions with females are so problematic that you're now afraid to talk to them for fear of repercussions, I seriously doubt "women" are the problem here, which is what you seem to be implying.
- unethical_ban 10y ago
  It's off topic. It is also concerning that (without more detail) a singular remark about a social event off-hours would get someone fired.
  - danpalmer 10y ago
    I suspect that, for someone who uses that sort of language to talk about women even in private, it likely wasn't a first or only offence.
    - unethical_ban 10y ago
      Using 'bro' non ironically might be more of a key off than describing an experience with a woman as 'amazing'.
Arizhel 10y ago
If you're so unprofessional that you can't prevent yourself from having lurid conversations about sex in a workplace with women in earshot around you, then maybe you should be working someplace else, such as a dirty warehouse.
- plink 10y ago
  Thank God women don't work in dirty warehouses, historic bastions of misogyny. /s (had to edit and add the slash-"es" for the daft)
danpalmer 10y ago
As a male in my early twenties, working as a developer, I've come to realise that one of the best ways I can combat sexism in our industry is to treat women normally, and not make special exceptions while working with them. I wouldn't talk to my male friends, colleagues or brother in the way you've said your colleague did, I think it's demeaning and unpleasant, and I don't think calls of a very personal nature are appropriate to take around work colleagues anyway.

by ffef 10y ago

fullshark 10y ago

How is this relevant? Are you implying that the original blogpost indicated an overreaction on Susan Fowler's part?

aerovistae 10y ago

I don't even know what to say to this. If your interactions with females are so problematic that you're now afraid to talk to them for fear of repercussions, I seriously doubt "women" are the problem here, which is what you seem to be implying.

unethical_ban 10y ago
It's off topic. It is also concerning that (without more detail) a singular remark about a social event off-hours would get someone fired.
- danpalmer 10y ago
  I suspect that, for someone who uses that sort of language to talk about women even in private, it likely wasn't a first or only offence.
  - unethical_ban 10y ago
    Using 'bro' non ironically might be more of a key off than describing an experience with a woman as 'amazing'.

Arizhel 10y ago

If you're so unprofessional that you can't prevent yourself from having lurid conversations about sex in a workplace with women in earshot around you, then maybe you should be working someplace else, such as a dirty warehouse.

plink 10y ago
Thank God women don't work in dirty warehouses, historic bastions of misogyny. /s (had to edit and add the slash-"es" for the daft)

danpalmer 10y ago

As a male in my early twenties, working as a developer, I've come to realise that one of the best ways I can combat sexism in our industry is to treat women normally, and not make special exceptions while working with them. I wouldn't talk to my male friends, colleagues or brother in the way you've said your colleague did, I think it's demeaning and unpleasant, and I don't think calls of a very personal nature are appropriate to take around work colleagues anyway.