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Looks great, but it's sort of unfortunate that the author doesn't seem to have seen the work on microformats[1] that the IndieWeb community has been working on.

by rrix2 10y ago

Looks great, but it's sort of unfortunate that the author doesn't seem to have seen the work on microformats[1] that the IndieWeb community has been working on. Being able to pull microformats out of the posts to reconstruct feeds, automatically embed txt.fyi post summaries, syndicate to facebook/twitter/etc (with comments backfed in to it) is super nice for low-bandwidth sites like these, you can add a lot of useful value for little more a few extra HTML classes. The core of a lot of this, the "webmention" standard is a W3C recommendation, even.[2] [1]: http://indieweb.org/ http://indieweb.org/ http://microformats.org/ http://microformats.org/ [2]: https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/

asymmetric 10y ago
I feel so sad that microformats havent gone mainstream yet. They're such a good idea, and so easy to use, yet 99.9% of websites don't bother. Instead I have to, e.g., manually select a street name and enter it into a OSM search field. I wonder, why haven't thet gotten more popular?
Waterluvian 10y ago
Maybe this is a joke. Maybe I'm missing the point. But I think the point is not to have these things. To make it as vanilla as possible.
- zichy 10y ago
  Maybe "vanilla as possible" is not desirable if it means that your markup is non-semantic. I like that Txt.fyi tries to be as simple as possible, but there are some UI anti-patterns like the textarea placeholder instead of a matching label. It would be pretty easy to add the proper HTML elements like <header> and microformats.
lexicality 10y ago
Maybe I'm missing something, but after a quick look through the first two links I have no idea what microformats are. Even the about pages appear to be nothing but buzzwords and acronyms. Is it like schema.org microdata?
- tedmiston 10y ago
  The idea of microformats is giving some known structure to much of the unstructured data used in pages across the web. The idea has a lot of potential, but I don't know how much they're used in practice. There are a few formats and microdata can be in the body of the html itself as attributes or separate as JSON-LD. Google supports microformats for use cases like contact information and restaurant reviews [1][2]. If they were used ubiquitously, there could be an obscene amount of power in essentially being able to run one SQL query across different data sets on multiple websites. [1]: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/intro-structured-data https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/intro-struc... [2]: https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/structured_data#using-microformats https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/structured_...
  - lexicality 10y ago
    So the precursor to microdata?

by rrix2 10y ago

asymmetric 10y ago

I feel so sad that microformats havent gone mainstream yet. They're such a good idea, and so easy to use, yet 99.9% of websites don't bother. Instead I have to, e.g., manually select a street name and enter it into a OSM search field. I wonder, why haven't thet gotten more popular?

Waterluvian 10y ago

Maybe this is a joke. Maybe I'm missing the point. But I think the point is not to have these things. To make it as vanilla as possible.

zichy 10y ago
Maybe "vanilla as possible" is not desirable if it means that your markup is non-semantic. I like that Txt.fyi tries to be as simple as possible, but there are some UI anti-patterns like the textarea placeholder instead of a matching label. It would be pretty easy to add the proper HTML elements like <header> and microformats.

lexicality 10y ago

Maybe I'm missing something, but after a quick look through the first two links I have no idea what microformats are. Even the about pages appear to be nothing but buzzwords and acronyms. Is it like schema.org microdata?

tedmiston 10y ago
The idea of microformats is giving some known structure to much of the unstructured data used in pages across the web. The idea has a lot of potential, but I don't know how much they're used in practice. There are a few formats and microdata can be in the body of the html itself as attributes or separate as JSON-LD. Google supports microformats for use cases like contact information and restaurant reviews [1][2]. If they were used ubiquitously, there could be an obscene amount of power in essentially being able to run one SQL query across different data sets on multiple websites. [1]: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/intro-structured-data https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/intro-struc... [2]: https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/structured_data#using-microformats https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/structured_...
- lexicality 10y ago
  So the precursor to microdata?