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As an Android developer, this article is clickbait. However, had this been written just a few years ago it would have definitely rang true. Android developmen

As an Android developer, this article is clickbait. However, had this been written just a few years ago it would have definitely rang true. Android development was truly in a gruesome state - based off of Eclipse and clunky build and a mishmash of tools that weren't well integrated. Perhaps that set the bar low, and there are still more improvements to make, but it's a great platform to build on.

scotty79 10y ago
I tried android development few years ago and IDE it was horrible. I tried a month ago again and it was still horrible even though it was different IDE. It still feels like doing MFC windows app in some ancient Visual Studio. Why can't all new GUI IDEs start at least at level that Delphi was 20 years ago?
- Joeri 10y ago
  What is it that delphi did that you want? The gui designer? The speed of compilation?
  - scotty79 10y ago
    Gui designer mostly. And the ui of the IDE itself. I want to feel that I'm in control of building an app. Android Studio (and Eclipse before that) made me feel like I'm taking unguided tour over bad decisions of android API creators and lack of giving a damn of IDE creators.
    - Joeri 10y ago
      I don't know if you've looked at modern delphi, but it's not that different from IntelliJ. It seems amazing that delphi 1 was perfectly usable on a 640 x 480 screen, showing a complete IDE with a GUI designer, code editor, panel, menu and toolbar. Delphi 1: https://winworldpc.com/res/img/screenshots/1x-1a684e073c904874f4b8a2965a3968c8-Delphi%201.0%20-%20Edit.png https://winworldpc.com/res/img/screenshots/1x-1a684e073c9048... Delphi 10: http://uimg.in/images/2017/01/05/e4vC6sN.png http://uimg.in/images/2017/01/05/e4vC6sN.png When I break apart the UI differences it's obvious delphi's UI had to grow to accommodate the growing complexity of the projects built with it, and that delphi 1 could get away with being simple because it wasn't expected to do all that much. Still, when I look at that delphi 1 screenshot all I can remember was how fun it was to program in it.
      - scotty79 10y ago
        One of the feature I really liked is specifying anchors and size constraints for all elements of the ui. This is so intuitive and behaves so beautifully that I'm at loss why it wasn't done like that in CSS and in all of the IDE gui designers that came after Delphi.
- nenadst 10y ago
  You know that Delphi is available nowadays also for Android and IOS ? afaik it should also have a working Gui-Designer.. but it uses its own Framework Firemonkey
  - scotty79 10y ago
    Great news! Is it any good? I'm bit afraid since the genius behind Delphi now does Visual Studio (Code) for MS and his touch is incredibly visible there.

scotty79 10y ago

I tried android development few years ago and IDE it was horrible. I tried a month ago again and it was still horrible even though it was different IDE. It still feels like doing MFC windows app in some ancient Visual Studio. Why can't all new GUI IDEs start at least at level that Delphi was 20 years ago?

Joeri 10y ago
What is it that delphi did that you want? The gui designer? The speed of compilation?
- scotty79 10y ago
  Gui designer mostly. And the ui of the IDE itself. I want to feel that I'm in control of building an app. Android Studio (and Eclipse before that) made me feel like I'm taking unguided tour over bad decisions of android API creators and lack of giving a damn of IDE creators.
  - Joeri 10y ago
    I don't know if you've looked at modern delphi, but it's not that different from IntelliJ. It seems amazing that delphi 1 was perfectly usable on a 640 x 480 screen, showing a complete IDE with a GUI designer, code editor, panel, menu and toolbar. Delphi 1: https://winworldpc.com/res/img/screenshots/1x-1a684e073c904874f4b8a2965a3968c8-Delphi%201.0%20-%20Edit.png https://winworldpc.com/res/img/screenshots/1x-1a684e073c9048... Delphi 10: http://uimg.in/images/2017/01/05/e4vC6sN.png http://uimg.in/images/2017/01/05/e4vC6sN.png When I break apart the UI differences it's obvious delphi's UI had to grow to accommodate the growing complexity of the projects built with it, and that delphi 1 could get away with being simple because it wasn't expected to do all that much. Still, when I look at that delphi 1 screenshot all I can remember was how fun it was to program in it.
    - scotty79 10y ago
      One of the feature I really liked is specifying anchors and size constraints for all elements of the ui. This is so intuitive and behaves so beautifully that I'm at loss why it wasn't done like that in CSS and in all of the IDE gui designers that came after Delphi.
nenadst 10y ago
You know that Delphi is available nowadays also for Android and IOS ? afaik it should also have a working Gui-Designer.. but it uses its own Framework Firemonkey
- scotty79 10y ago
  Great news! Is it any good? I'm bit afraid since the genius behind Delphi now does Visual Studio (Code) for MS and his touch is incredibly visible there.